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**Nosmas** · 12-06-2009, 07:06 PM

Oh no I don't want to stop anyone from believing what ever they like. Only time I like to get all worked up is when people use their belief or should I say the belief of someone else in order to take advantage of them economicly/physicaly or mentaly.

You want to believe your magic works thats fine we would only have a problem if your telling some young gullable woman she is being attacked by dark forces and she needs you to cast 'protective' magic on her at the cost of $300... Then I have serious issues.

But people can always rationalize their actions. If your magic works, then $300 is cheap compared to years and years of prescription meds.

Or you wanted your special version of physics taught to young children without having to supply the same level of evidence as proper science. But if people feel that they have been given special knowledge from their god, most don't want to keep it to themselves. You are saying people can believe whatever they want to believe as long as they don't act on it. But some people's religion makes them act positively, helping others. It's rather scarey to think how many people would not bother to help out someone else if they didn't believe that they were getting an eternal reward out of it.

I must say so far in my studies Taoism, if they really do change their beliefs to conform with mankinds pool of amassed knowledge, is the most sensible belief system I have yet seen even more so.. in my opinion.. then buddhism.
. Since Taoism has survived in China, one the the most ruthlessly authoritarian nations on earth, I look on some aspects of it with a jaundiced eye. For instance, the concept of "wu wei" which suggests not struggling or taking the path of least resistance. At the same time, wu wei is mentioned with the martial arts which require a lot of training and struggle. So it appears to be a weasely concept which can be bent to fit the uses of those in authority.

12-06-2009, 07:06 PM	#36
Nosmas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 544 Senior Member	Oh no I don't want to stop anyone from believing what ever they like. Only time I like to get all worked up is when people use their belief or should I say the belief of someone else in order to take advantage of them economicly/physicaly or mentaly. You want to believe your magic works thats fine we would only have a problem if your telling some young gullable woman she is being attacked by dark forces and she needs you to cast 'protective' magic on her at the cost of $300... Then I have serious issues. But people can always rationalize their actions. If your magic works, then $300 is cheap compared to years and years of prescription meds. Or you wanted your special version of physics taught to young children without having to supply the same level of evidence as proper science. But if people feel that they have been given special knowledge from their god, most don't want to keep it to themselves. You are saying people can believe whatever they want to believe as long as they don't act on it. But some people's religion makes them act positively, helping others. It's rather scarey to think how many people would not bother to help out someone else if they didn't believe that they were getting an eternal reward out of it. I must say so far in my studies Taoism, if they really do change their beliefs to conform with mankinds pool of amassed knowledge, is the most sensible belief system I have yet seen even more so.. in my opinion.. then buddhism. . Since Taoism has survived in China, one the the most ruthlessly authoritarian nations on earth, I look on some aspects of it with a jaundiced eye. For instance, the concept of "wu wei" which suggests not struggling or taking the path of least resistance. At the same time, wu wei is mentioned with the martial arts which require a lot of training and struggle. So it appears to be a weasely concept which can be bent to fit the uses of those in authority.
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