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**D6Ri5u13** · 11-28-2009, 07:02 AM

We know Fr. Daniil was murdered for the faith and by definition this makes him a martyr. Does his local veneration begin immediately and if there is to be universal veneration for him does this take a generation or more to come about? If by definition he is a martyr, why the delay?

This is something which will happen spontaneously among the people who knew him and spread out from there. I have no doubt this will happen quickly, as he traveled widely - my priest when I lived in China knew him well from seminary days, and officiated at Fr Daniil's wedding.

For the time being however, we are still in the 40 day period after Fr Daniil's murder. Traditionally someone who is died is commemorated on the third, ninth, and fortieth days after their repose. The ninth day after Fr. Daniil's murder will be this Sunday, so I think it would be excellent if people reading could give his name and his wife and children's names to their priest when they go to the Divine Liturgy so he can be remembered there in the chalice. As was mentioned above, the fortieth day will be December 30th, which will be the feast day of Holy Prophet Daniel in the Russian church, and Fr Daniil's name day.

11-28-2009, 07:02 AM	#20
D6Ri5u13 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 561 Senior Member	We know Fr. Daniil was murdered for the faith and by definition this makes him a martyr. Does his local veneration begin immediately and if there is to be universal veneration for him does this take a generation or more to come about? If by definition he is a martyr, why the delay? This is something which will happen spontaneously among the people who knew him and spread out from there. I have no doubt this will happen quickly, as he traveled widely - my priest when I lived in China knew him well from seminary days, and officiated at Fr Daniil's wedding. For the time being however, we are still in the 40 day period after Fr Daniil's murder. Traditionally someone who is died is commemorated on the third, ninth, and fortieth days after their repose. The ninth day after Fr. Daniil's murder will be this Sunday, so I think it would be excellent if people reading could give his name and his wife and children's names to their priest when they go to the Divine Liturgy so he can be remembered there in the chalice. As was mentioned above, the fortieth day will be December 30th, which will be the feast day of Holy Prophet Daniel in the Russian church, and Fr Daniil's name day.
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