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**tipokot** · 06-22-2011, 03:56 AM

It seems like all I hear about them now is their quarreling over land or their "fraternal relations" with the heterodox.

Unfortunately, a lot of religious news comes from secular journalists who seem mostly interested in reporting on subjects which appeal to the secular mentality. Religious scandal, strife between religions, strife within one religion, and the movement of religions towards a One World Religion are all appealing to the secularist who, approaching the subject of religion only superficially, struggles between wanting all religion implode or disappear on one hand (so he doesn't have to struggle to find the truth), and wanting all religions to unite on the other hand (so he doesn't have to struggle to find the truth). Orthodox should usually give little attention to religious news issued by secular journalists.

Regarding the subject of Romania and Jerusalem, it seems that there has been a misunderstanding between the two patriarchates, but it is one that seems fairly easy to resolve. Jerusalem broke communion with the Romanian Church, forbidding concelebration with the Romanians until the issue is resolved (but they will still commune Romanians), while the Romanians seem genuinely bewildered and intend to set up a commission to talk with Jerusalem with the hope of resolving their differences. Here are a couple of posts from the Romanian Patriarchate on the subject:

http://www.basilica.ro/en/news/bthe_...emb__6244.html

http://www.basilica.ro/en/news/bexpl...chob_8871.html

I don’t know if I would agree that the Patriarchates are all “consumed with politics and quarrelling.” Most of our canonical problems today, including the issue of overlapping jurisdictions in America and other countries that aren’t historically Orthodox, resulted from the subjugation of the Moscow Patriarchate under the Soviets. Now that Communism has fallen, there is a tremendous mess to be cleaned up so that the Church can function more canonically. The canonical order of the Church should not take precedent over the salvation of souls and the establishment of more specifically soul-profiting endeavors, but neither can we completely disregard the canonical order of the Church. If it seems that news from the Patriarchates and autocephalous churches seems to mostly be concerned with relations between Orthodox and non-Orthodox, and relations between first hierarchs of different local Orthodox churches, this is likely because these subjects come under the domain of the first hierarchs of the various local churches, and the news outlets for each local church are usually connected to the office of the first hierarch.

06-22-2011, 03:56 AM	#7
tipokot Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	It seems like all I hear about them now is their quarreling over land or their "fraternal relations" with the heterodox. Unfortunately, a lot of religious news comes from secular journalists who seem mostly interested in reporting on subjects which appeal to the secular mentality. Religious scandal, strife between religions, strife within one religion, and the movement of religions towards a One World Religion are all appealing to the secularist who, approaching the subject of religion only superficially, struggles between wanting all religion implode or disappear on one hand (so he doesn't have to struggle to find the truth), and wanting all religions to unite on the other hand (so he doesn't have to struggle to find the truth). Orthodox should usually give little attention to religious news issued by secular journalists. Regarding the subject of Romania and Jerusalem, it seems that there has been a misunderstanding between the two patriarchates, but it is one that seems fairly easy to resolve. Jerusalem broke communion with the Romanian Church, forbidding concelebration with the Romanians until the issue is resolved (but they will still commune Romanians), while the Romanians seem genuinely bewildered and intend to set up a commission to talk with Jerusalem with the hope of resolving their differences. Here are a couple of posts from the Romanian Patriarchate on the subject: http://www.basilica.ro/en/news/bthe_...emb__6244.html http://www.basilica.ro/en/news/bexpl...chob_8871.html I don’t know if I would agree that the Patriarchates are all “consumed with politics and quarrelling.” Most of our canonical problems today, including the issue of overlapping jurisdictions in America and other countries that aren’t historically Orthodox, resulted from the subjugation of the Moscow Patriarchate under the Soviets. Now that Communism has fallen, there is a tremendous mess to be cleaned up so that the Church can function more canonically. The canonical order of the Church should not take precedent over the salvation of souls and the establishment of more specifically soul-profiting endeavors, but neither can we completely disregard the canonical order of the Church. If it seems that news from the Patriarchates and autocephalous churches seems to mostly be concerned with relations between Orthodox and non-Orthodox, and relations between first hierarchs of different local Orthodox churches, this is likely because these subjects come under the domain of the first hierarchs of the various local churches, and the news outlets for each local church are usually connected to the office of the first hierarch.
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