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**MADwanker** · 08-23-2010, 01:40 AM

I'm very interested to know what constitutes scholarship nowadays. Of course most theological schools whether orthodox or not are quite lacking. Now myself, as a short order cook, I will like to share some real scholarship with this scholar. First off how is it that the gospel story of doubting Thomas is ovberlooked? Thomas specifically mentions nails in the plural as the instruments which affixed his hands to the cross. Obviously the story dates to the first century, isnt that ancient enough.

Secondly how is it that this scholar claims that the gospel only mentions that Christ carried a stauron, when scholars already know that when prisoners carried a stauro they actually were carrying the crossbeam! To carry the actual upright pole would mean Christ (and later the man from Cyrene) actually carried a 12-15 foot long pole that weighed hundreds of pounds. Unless Christ was on steroids rather than a bloody mess perhaps he would have been able to pull it off. Even a person who lays down the wooden beams for train tracks can conclude that this scholar is way offbase.

This scholar who "reads alot", should instead put down his books and go to the patriarchal museum in Jerusalem where on display is an unearthed 1st century nail going thru a wristbone, belonging to an unlucky victim of crucifixion.

Hi Kosta

I came across some Jehovah witnesses saying Tha Jesus was not crucified on a cross but rather a upright pole
They even showed me a srcipture refering to a Tree. I looked up the Greek Word for Tree and Looked into the meaning of the word: It is either a {1} Tree {2} piece of wood. {3} two pieces of Wood.

I went to wikapedia on Roman Crucifixtion: There it says: That the Upright pole is already at the place of Execution because
It is too heavy to carry: Because it is 300lb in weight. It says people who were crucified were made to carry a piece of wood the cross member which is 100lb in weight. The bible says Jesus carried something to where he was to be executed.

I have come to the conclusion Jesus did not carry a whole Cross to the place of Execution; So he must have carried a piece
of wood, you can problably call it his torcher stick. but it was the piece of wood used as the cross beam.
So Jesus Must have been crucfied on the CROSS.

08-23-2010, 01:40 AM	#21
MADwanker Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	I'm very interested to know what constitutes scholarship nowadays. Of course most theological schools whether orthodox or not are quite lacking. Now myself, as a short order cook, I will like to share some real scholarship with this scholar. First off how is it that the gospel story of doubting Thomas is ovberlooked? Thomas specifically mentions nails in the plural as the instruments which affixed his hands to the cross. Obviously the story dates to the first century, isnt that ancient enough. Secondly how is it that this scholar claims that the gospel only mentions that Christ carried a stauron, when scholars already know that when prisoners carried a stauro they actually were carrying the crossbeam! To carry the actual upright pole would mean Christ (and later the man from Cyrene) actually carried a 12-15 foot long pole that weighed hundreds of pounds. Unless Christ was on steroids rather than a bloody mess perhaps he would have been able to pull it off. Even a person who lays down the wooden beams for train tracks can conclude that this scholar is way offbase. This scholar who "reads alot", should instead put down his books and go to the patriarchal museum in Jerusalem where on display is an unearthed 1st century nail going thru a wristbone, belonging to an unlucky victim of crucifixion. Hi Kosta I came across some Jehovah witnesses saying Tha Jesus was not crucified on a cross but rather a upright pole They even showed me a srcipture refering to a Tree. I looked up the Greek Word for Tree and Looked into the meaning of the word: It is either a {1} Tree {2} piece of wood. {3} two pieces of Wood. I went to wikapedia on Roman Crucifixtion: There it says: That the Upright pole is already at the place of Execution because It is too heavy to carry: Because it is 300lb in weight. It says people who were crucified were made to carry a piece of wood the cross member which is 100lb in weight. The bible says Jesus carried something to where he was to be executed. I have come to the conclusion Jesus did not carry a whole Cross to the place of Execution; So he must have carried a piece of wood, you can problably call it his torcher stick. but it was the piece of wood used as the cross beam. So Jesus Must have been crucfied on the CROSS.
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