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**ButKnillinoi** · 12-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Probably it will be the same as when in 1900 the date shifted from Jan 6 to Jan 7 - none. The terminology used in the news release is nothing more than the usual media shallowness and ignorance of the true issue of the calendar. We all know that the feast of our Lord's Nativity is never celebrated on any date other than Dec. 25 - its just that Dec 25th on the Julian Calendar (used for Church feasts by the majority of Orthodox Christians) does not coincide Dec 25th on the Gregorian Calendar (which is the generally accepted civil calendar). So let's try to not confuse the issue with red herrings.

Fr David Moser

Well, actually, that is not quite correct. In 1900 I believe Russia still used the Julian calendar as the civil calendar, so no "shift" actually occurred for the average parishioner until 1918 (and not until 1923 in Greece). That was when "December 25" (Julian) became "January 7" (Gregorian). The next shift will happen in 2100, so many of us will not be here to worry about it, but it will be the first time the "civil" date of the Nativity will change.

Herman the nitpickin' Pooh

12-04-2009, 08:42 PM	#5
ButKnillinoi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	Probably it will be the same as when in 1900 the date shifted from Jan 6 to Jan 7 - none. The terminology used in the news release is nothing more than the usual media shallowness and ignorance of the true issue of the calendar. We all know that the feast of our Lord's Nativity is never celebrated on any date other than Dec. 25 - its just that Dec 25th on the Julian Calendar (used for Church feasts by the majority of Orthodox Christians) does not coincide Dec 25th on the Gregorian Calendar (which is the generally accepted civil calendar). So let's try to not confuse the issue with red herrings. Fr David Moser Well, actually, that is not quite correct. In 1900 I believe Russia still used the Julian calendar as the civil calendar, so no "shift" actually occurred for the average parishioner until 1918 (and not until 1923 in Greece). That was when "December 25" (Julian) became "January 7" (Gregorian). The next shift will happen in 2100, so many of us will not be here to worry about it, but it will be the first time the "civil" date of the Nativity will change. Herman the nitpickin' Pooh
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