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**Erexecike** · 06-12-2008, 06:39 AM

Dear Alice,

do you know that on 12th December of 1452 the uniate patriarch Isidore (later a cardinal) had a common liturgy with a latin cardinal?
and that after this ,the orthodox faithful denied to entry in Hagia Sophia?
St.Raphael of Lesbos ,who was emperor's close friend and at this time protosyggelos in the patriarchate, disagreed and prefered to leave Constantinople and live in exile.

As many historians believe, the crucial point for the Eastern Roman Empire or Romanity ,was the fall by the Franks in 1204.
Then it was a matter of time ,for the weak state to fall in the hands of the turks.

And the final hit came in 1922 when orthodoxy dissapeared from Asia Minor.

Anyway,"here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come."(Hebrew 13,14)

06-12-2008, 06:39 AM	#5
Erexecike Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Dear Alice, do you know that on 12th December of 1452 the uniate patriarch Isidore (later a cardinal) had a common liturgy with a latin cardinal? and that after this ,the orthodox faithful denied to entry in Hagia Sophia? St.Raphael of Lesbos ,who was emperor's close friend and at this time protosyggelos in the patriarchate, disagreed and prefered to leave Constantinople and live in exile. As many historians believe, the crucial point for the Eastern Roman Empire or Romanity ,was the fall by the Franks in 1204. Then it was a matter of time ,for the weak state to fall in the hands of the turks. And the final hit came in 1922 when orthodoxy dissapeared from Asia Minor. Anyway,"here we have no lasting city, but we seek the city that is to come."(Hebrew 13,14)
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