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**romalama** · 09-29-2008, 07:18 PM

I would not find it peculiar that both English and Greek are used in the wording on the seal, given that Fr Ignatios' monastery is in the Holy Land, where English would be a widely-understood language. If I'm not mistaken, the Greek postal service now recognises addresses written in the Latin alphabet, as well as Greek. The bottom line of wording on the seal may well be "East Jerusalem, Israel".

As for the name Agnatios, this name appears to be an Arabic variant of Ignatius/Ignatios.

on a greek site which i can't remember now, there was an excerpt from a greek church radio in which the woman speaker talks with a priest or something similar from the Patriarchate of Jerusalem and they talk on the same miracle.It was prineted on orthodox magazines as well.Also they talk of a miracle with an egyptian former muslim cleric, whose daughter was saved by a miracle of the cross.Also in a radio show of the church of greece they spoke with an archimadrate, not sure but I think an archimandrate, serving in the Jerusalem Patriarchate,he said that many miracles happen there now.He spoke generally and said about a young boy to whom angels appeared and even Lord giving the boy crosses and telling it to be baptised.The boy talked to the archimandrate and he said that many people are afraid to be baptized because of the muslims.Some people are baptized and leave the region for USA.So if you have connections there you could ask for orthodox christians eg immigrants, refugees ( for human rights) or young students in us universities .

Maybe in the greek archiodecese or the antiochean you could find more info.I have heard of the case of an ex muslim, now orthodox christian by miracle,there is a how do they call the death notes of islam fetvas? or something like it and they're hiding in usa.

Some of these stories are not heard for people's safety, but they say that many miracles happen and that many muslims want or are baptized orthodox christians.It happens also in Turkey, have u heard of cryptochristians? Some turks also have become orthodox christians.Because of the political instability in Turkey the turkish army lately declared christianity as an enemy of the state, not officially of course, because a military report said that in the next 20 years up to a 1/3 of the turkish population could become christians and thus threatening the character and uniformity of the cosmical kemal state.Maybe u heard of the murder of a catholic priest the burnings against catholics in smyrne izmit in turkish if I remember it right.The zelotic american evangelists preaching in Turkey, the cosmical regime was annoyed by them and even the State Department warned the turks not to harm them.A story: a cleric from greece went to Constantinople and met with a cleric of the patriarchate.they travelled with a small ship like those who make small voyages in Bosporus between the two sides of the city like taxis or buses.They were having a general talk, and en route somewhere, a turkish woman approached them and asked for blessing or kissed their hand?She said in turkish, the cleric of the patriarchate spoke turkish, that she was a hiding orthodox christian a cryptochristian but on the next stop she left the ship withouts saying names or more.Didn't Elder Paisios say that all the prayers or candles lit under the earth in turkey that soon would be lit or done above the surface?( not in hiding).
That turkish army report of 1/3 possibly becoming christians in an open turkish society, like if turkey was a EU member caused some steer here in greece because many said that it bears similarity to the Saint Cosmas's prophechy of 1/3 of them being baptised.They say that maybe we are near in these things to happen, they also mention of what Elder Paisios said on Turkey and Constantinople and many expect these things in this generation.This is a bit off topic.
If you can talk in Usa privately with members of the higher clergy or with libanese palestinean syrian orthodox christians living in usa you'll hear amazing things.These are not openly talked not "for the fear of jews" but for the fear of muslims.Also I have heard the story of a sister an orthodox nun in a woman monastery in Attiki athens jewish in origin from israel.Her family treats as if she is dead for them, and maybe she became orthodox nun due to a miracle but I don't know more on these.We are slowly living this change, maybe we are towards the years who will lead to the rise of Orthodoxy again.The fathers here in the forum community I am sure that know something more on these through an Elder a Starets or through personal experience.Some fathers are of Russian orthodox church outside russia and I'm sure they have been informed by elders or enlighted mothers or fathers from russia on this.Here in greece some frightening rumors are heard around on quick developments but I can't say or give credit to them because I can't verify them.

09-29-2008, 07:18 PM	#6
romalama Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	I would not find it peculiar that both English and Greek are used in the wording on the seal, given that Fr Ignatios' monastery is in the Holy Land, where English would be a widely-understood language. If I'm not mistaken, the Greek postal service now recognises addresses written in the Latin alphabet, as well as Greek. The bottom line of wording on the seal may well be "East Jerusalem, Israel". As for the name Agnatios, this name appears to be an Arabic variant of Ignatius/Ignatios. on a greek site which i can't remember now, there was an excerpt from a greek church radio in which the woman speaker talks with a priest or something similar from the Patriarchate of Jerusalem and they talk on the same miracle.It was prineted on orthodox magazines as well.Also they talk of a miracle with an egyptian former muslim cleric, whose daughter was saved by a miracle of the cross.Also in a radio show of the church of greece they spoke with an archimadrate, not sure but I think an archimandrate, serving in the Jerusalem Patriarchate,he said that many miracles happen there now.He spoke generally and said about a young boy to whom angels appeared and even Lord giving the boy crosses and telling it to be baptised.The boy talked to the archimandrate and he said that many people are afraid to be baptized because of the muslims.Some people are baptized and leave the region for USA.So if you have connections there you could ask for orthodox christians eg immigrants, refugees ( for human rights) or young students in us universities . Maybe in the greek archiodecese or the antiochean you could find more info.I have heard of the case of an ex muslim, now orthodox christian by miracle,there is a how do they call the death notes of islam fetvas? or something like it and they're hiding in usa. Some of these stories are not heard for people's safety, but they say that many miracles happen and that many muslims want or are baptized orthodox christians.It happens also in Turkey, have u heard of cryptochristians? Some turks also have become orthodox christians.Because of the political instability in Turkey the turkish army lately declared christianity as an enemy of the state, not officially of course, because a military report said that in the next 20 years up to a 1/3 of the turkish population could become christians and thus threatening the character and uniformity of the cosmical kemal state.Maybe u heard of the murder of a catholic priest the burnings against catholics in smyrne izmit in turkish if I remember it right.The zelotic american evangelists preaching in Turkey, the cosmical regime was annoyed by them and even the State Department warned the turks not to harm them.A story: a cleric from greece went to Constantinople and met with a cleric of the patriarchate.they travelled with a small ship like those who make small voyages in Bosporus between the two sides of the city like taxis or buses.They were having a general talk, and en route somewhere, a turkish woman approached them and asked for blessing or kissed their hand?She said in turkish, the cleric of the patriarchate spoke turkish, that she was a hiding orthodox christian a cryptochristian but on the next stop she left the ship withouts saying names or more.Didn't Elder Paisios say that all the prayers or candles lit under the earth in turkey that soon would be lit or done above the surface?( not in hiding). That turkish army report of 1/3 possibly becoming christians in an open turkish society, like if turkey was a EU member caused some steer here in greece because many said that it bears similarity to the Saint Cosmas's prophechy of 1/3 of them being baptised.They say that maybe we are near in these things to happen, they also mention of what Elder Paisios said on Turkey and Constantinople and many expect these things in this generation.This is a bit off topic. If you can talk in Usa privately with members of the higher clergy or with libanese palestinean syrian orthodox christians living in usa you'll hear amazing things.These are not openly talked not "for the fear of jews" but for the fear of muslims.Also I have heard the story of a sister an orthodox nun in a woman monastery in Attiki athens jewish in origin from israel.Her family treats as if she is dead for them, and maybe she became orthodox nun due to a miracle but I don't know more on these.We are slowly living this change, maybe we are towards the years who will lead to the rise of Orthodoxy again.The fathers here in the forum community I am sure that know something more on these through an Elder a Starets or through personal experience.Some fathers are of Russian orthodox church outside russia and I'm sure they have been informed by elders or enlighted mothers or fathers from russia on this.Here in greece some frightening rumors are heard around on quick developments but I can't say or give credit to them because I can't verify them.
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