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**Freeptube** · 11-10-2007, 12:15 PM

The elders are not deceased - they are alive, more than they were when in this life. They also labour for our salvation; they care for us and help us. Please do not separate heaven and earth - they are bridged by the activity of the saints.

Yes, they have passed from the Church Militant to the Church Triumphant. They are never deceased. We all need their prayers. And Andrew is right also because whoever does not love saints (fathers/elders), will not love priests and will not love God. All are intertwined.

11-10-2007, 12:15 PM	#17
Freeptube Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 589 Senior Member	The elders are not deceased - they are alive, more than they were when in this life. They also labour for our salvation; they care for us and help us. Please do not separate heaven and earth - they are bridged by the activity of the saints. Yes, they have passed from the Church Militant to the Church Triumphant. They are never deceased. We all need their prayers. And Andrew is right also because whoever does not love saints (fathers/elders), will not love priests and will not love God. All are intertwined.
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