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**Freeptube** · 02-18-2008, 06:46 AM

I don't agree with this sentiment. Whether or not Kosovo is independent really doesn't matter. What matters is that there is peace and harmony, and that the Gospel can be declared there. There is an Albanian Orthodox Church, after all, and it could be quite possible given effort and prayer that the churches which used to have liturgies in Serbian will one day have them in Albanian. Is one really more important? Or does one group have the only "right" to the area? Come on, Serbs and Albanians have lived in the area for centuries. Instead of talking gloomily, we can try to work for something good--that Muslim Albanians will return to their roots in the Orthodox Church.

Of course it matters if Kosovo is independent or not. In the times of EU we live, it is über-oxymoronic to have some land in the middle of Europe declare independence. It is not that now we are in 1910s and the "Greater Powers" are deciding the borders. What does it mean to have Kosovo independent?! Why? What are they trying to achieve with that independence? Read this - if they are Albanians why the new flag?

We pray about the situation to be peaceful and harmonious, but history past has not shown the same. The Albanian Orthodox Church does not include Kosovo. And it is not that Kosovo area was off limits from other Orthodox. There are some camps organized there by the AOC and maybe God willing things will change as you say (and I like your attitude on this matter) however those that are called Muslim Albanians are not really descendants of Albanians. Since the majority was brought there during Ottoman Empire from Turkey, when the Christians of that area were persecuted, killed etc. Their properties and homes were confiscated and turkish families were planted there and of course some other families who committed apostasy. Some days ago I even came across a video (but I can not find it at the moment) which claimed that the Serbian Orthodox churches of Kosovo, are really Albanian Catholic churches (!!!). This is such unscrupulous lie.

The Gospel not only has been declared there centuries ago but the Gospel lived there through the Serbian Orthodox, but Kosovo Albanians did not care for Christianity because they would have converted during all these years. With God nothing is impossible and I pray that things will work for the better, and we all must pray, however a prophecy of St. Kosmas Aetolos about Dalmatia rings in mind. Of course I do not know what it means and of course I can not interpret prophecies of our saints. We can just pray.

I have read things such as "United States of Albania", "Greater Albania" and that after getting Kosovo they will head towards Greece to get more land (!!!). I just pray that God shows mercy. Of course we must show love and mercy, but it is also proper to know and say the truth.

02-18-2008, 06:46 AM	#9
Freeptube Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 589 Senior Member	I don't agree with this sentiment. Whether or not Kosovo is independent really doesn't matter. What matters is that there is peace and harmony, and that the Gospel can be declared there. There is an Albanian Orthodox Church, after all, and it could be quite possible given effort and prayer that the churches which used to have liturgies in Serbian will one day have them in Albanian. Is one really more important? Or does one group have the only "right" to the area? Come on, Serbs and Albanians have lived in the area for centuries. Instead of talking gloomily, we can try to work for something good--that Muslim Albanians will return to their roots in the Orthodox Church. Of course it matters if Kosovo is independent or not. In the times of EU we live, it is über-oxymoronic to have some land in the middle of Europe declare independence. It is not that now we are in 1910s and the "Greater Powers" are deciding the borders. What does it mean to have Kosovo independent?! Why? What are they trying to achieve with that independence? Read this - if they are Albanians why the new flag? We pray about the situation to be peaceful and harmonious, but history past has not shown the same. The Albanian Orthodox Church does not include Kosovo. And it is not that Kosovo area was off limits from other Orthodox. There are some camps organized there by the AOC and maybe God willing things will change as you say (and I like your attitude on this matter) however those that are called Muslim Albanians are not really descendants of Albanians. Since the majority was brought there during Ottoman Empire from Turkey, when the Christians of that area were persecuted, killed etc. Their properties and homes were confiscated and turkish families were planted there and of course some other families who committed apostasy. Some days ago I even came across a video (but I can not find it at the moment) which claimed that the Serbian Orthodox churches of Kosovo, are really Albanian Catholic churches (!!!). This is such unscrupulous lie. The Gospel not only has been declared there centuries ago but the Gospel lived there through the Serbian Orthodox, but Kosovo Albanians did not care for Christianity because they would have converted during all these years. With God nothing is impossible and I pray that things will work for the better, and we all must pray, however a prophecy of St. Kosmas Aetolos about Dalmatia rings in mind. Of course I do not know what it means and of course I can not interpret prophecies of our saints. We can just pray. I have read things such as "United States of Albania", "Greater Albania" and that after getting Kosovo they will head towards Greece to get more land (!!!). I just pray that God shows mercy. Of course we must show love and mercy, but it is also proper to know and say the truth.
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