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**12Cickprior** · 01-10-2008, 10:40 AM

I am sorry Seraphim, I do not know the "Branch Theory" of which you speak. I only know church history. If you do not believe that Orthodoxy is the root of orthodox christianity, do you not believe that Rome broke from the fold in the 11th century and the Protestants broke from Rome in the 16th? How is it that we are our own tree if we share this history?

And, I am not saying that Orthodoxy is a part of other churches, I am saying we share a history in Christendom.

There is really no such thing as "little o" orthodoxy. Roman Catholicism and Protestantism have major Christological, Trinitarian, Ecclesiological, and Mysteriological heresies. Orthodoxy means correct glory. Only Orthodoxy allows man to partake of the uncreated glory of Christ. You cannot get this in Protestantism or Roman Catholicism. They do not produce deified men. Orthodoxy and the rest of Christianity are two seperate things.

A tree's branches are organically united. The logical conclusion of what this bishop said is that the various Christian confessions might not be as solid as Orthodoxy, but they are still all united in essence. This is incredibly false. To believe this nonsense would be to stand outside the mind of the Fathers.

Orthodox participation in ecumenism needs to be done away with. If there is ever another Ecumenical Council, I'm sure this will be the issue. Over the past 100 years this issue has caused much scandal and division within the Church... it has caused some hierarchs to sell out Orthodoxy, and some zealot faithful throw themselves outside the salvific ship of the Church.

01-10-2008, 10:40 AM	#39
12Cickprior Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	I am sorry Seraphim, I do not know the "Branch Theory" of which you speak. I only know church history. If you do not believe that Orthodoxy is the root of orthodox christianity, do you not believe that Rome broke from the fold in the 11th century and the Protestants broke from Rome in the 16th? How is it that we are our own tree if we share this history? And, I am not saying that Orthodoxy is a part of other churches, I am saying we share a history in Christendom. There is really no such thing as "little o" orthodoxy. Roman Catholicism and Protestantism have major Christological, Trinitarian, Ecclesiological, and Mysteriological heresies. Orthodoxy means correct glory. Only Orthodoxy allows man to partake of the uncreated glory of Christ. You cannot get this in Protestantism or Roman Catholicism. They do not produce deified men. Orthodoxy and the rest of Christianity are two seperate things. A tree's branches are organically united. The logical conclusion of what this bishop said is that the various Christian confessions might not be as solid as Orthodoxy, but they are still all united in essence. This is incredibly false. To believe this nonsense would be to stand outside the mind of the Fathers. Orthodox participation in ecumenism needs to be done away with. If there is ever another Ecumenical Council, I'm sure this will be the issue. Over the past 100 years this issue has caused much scandal and division within the Church... it has caused some hierarchs to sell out Orthodoxy, and some zealot faithful throw themselves outside the salvific ship of the Church.
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