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**acceraStoof** · 01-02-2008, 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=Shawn Lazar;55902]Effie,

I presume there aren't too many problems for evangelicals (and presumably other religious groups in Greece) NOW precisely because of the legal case I referred to. Being a part of the E.U., Greece has to generally abide by its laws. "

I would trust Greeks and Greek law before I would trust faceless, anonymous men in Brussels who I didn't even vote for. We are hoping that the EU will help with the horrendous organization difficulties this country has (an ethnic character fault ) but I would not change Greek justice and honour and pride for anything.

As for recent laws : I know that Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to serve as medics in the Hellenic Army during their national service, because of their religious beliefs. This is not a recent decision - I've known this for about 20-25 years I think.

Shawn, which country is perfect? I am not going to apologize for the things that are wrong with Greece. There are so many that I would have a hard time listing them........................

But, soften a little please. We are both christians. Is your religion perfect? Is anything? I have found wise and wonderful things in the writings of many Protestants e.g. Hannah Whitall Smith, Catherine Marshall, May Culley (one of my favourites even though she only wrote one book), but I love Orthodoxy. It is solid, it is true. Are there some things that could be changed? Not in Orthodoxy itself. I believe that past acts and present difficulties are caused not by Orthodoxy but by those who might be Orthodox in name but not in spirit. You mentioned the quote I included. What would you have preferred? That he not mention our beliefs but concentrate on petty details that have nothing to do with christianity.

Effie

01-02-2008, 07:23 PM	#27
acceraStoof Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	[QUOTE=Shawn Lazar;55902]Effie, I presume there aren't too many problems for evangelicals (and presumably other religious groups in Greece) NOW precisely because of the legal case I referred to. Being a part of the E.U., Greece has to generally abide by its laws. " I would trust Greeks and Greek law before I would trust faceless, anonymous men in Brussels who I didn't even vote for. We are hoping that the EU will help with the horrendous organization difficulties this country has (an ethnic character fault ) but I would not change Greek justice and honour and pride for anything. As for recent laws : I know that Jehovah's Witnesses are allowed to serve as medics in the Hellenic Army during their national service, because of their religious beliefs. This is not a recent decision - I've known this for about 20-25 years I think. Shawn, which country is perfect? I am not going to apologize for the things that are wrong with Greece. There are so many that I would have a hard time listing them........................ But, soften a little please. We are both christians. Is your religion perfect? Is anything? I have found wise and wonderful things in the writings of many Protestants e.g. Hannah Whitall Smith, Catherine Marshall, May Culley (one of my favourites even though she only wrote one book), but I love Orthodoxy. It is solid, it is true. Are there some things that could be changed? Not in Orthodoxy itself. I believe that past acts and present difficulties are caused not by Orthodoxy but by those who might be Orthodox in name but not in spirit. You mentioned the quote I included. What would you have preferred? That he not mention our beliefs but concentrate on petty details that have nothing to do with christianity. Effie
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