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Old 12-03-2007, 03:57 AM   #12
immoceefe

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Whenever large migrations of people occur there is often conflict. In the U.S., there is a very strong movement led by La Raza (the Race) to take back the Southwestern United States for Mexico, i.e. territory that was stolen by the U.S. in the Mexican War of 1848. Likewise, there has been a huge Muslim migration into Western Europe and Britain and there is much talk of essentially taking over these countries from within through the sheer force of demography. The fact that there are many good and decent Muslims in the world, and in Western Europe avoids the critical issue that many Muslim leaders intend this to be a way of ultimately taking over infidel countries, which is what Muslims are called upon to do.

The response on the part of liberal democracies is to be more open and tolerant in order to prove to ourselves and others just how superior our political and social system is, to the point of cultural suicide. In Britain, as local councils eventually are governed by Muslims, we will see Sharia laws imposed, and the national government is going to likely say, hey, we are tolerant of your intolerance to the degree that there will be no stopping point. What's wrong with Sharia law being imposed throughout Britain?

That some Pakistani kids are the subject of prejudice hardly seems to address the underlying problems that exist -- more a diversion. If you accuse someone of being bigoted, this usually ends all civilized discussion and debate.

I think at some point Britain, the U.S. and Western Europe are going to be forced to deport large numbers of Muslim activists and significantly alter their immigration laws. Every culture has a right to exist as long as it is not guilty of military aggression and outright barbarism. And the real cultural genocide going on here is by Muslims against Western political systems.

As for the Crusades and the Orthodox, well, the Orthodox have been forced to live peacefully within Muslim societies, at least those who were not slaughtered by the Muslims when they first took over. And while the Crusades represented all kinds of injustices, they were a response, at least to some degree, to violent Muslim conquests. It's more complicated than that of course, but it was precipitated by the Muslims prohibiting Christian pilgrimages to the Holy Land.

What liberal Westerners do not understand is that Muslims see themselves as having had the greatest world empire in history, that this world empire was destroyed in the relatively short historical period of a hundred years, and they want it back. This is incomprehensible to the liberal Western mind which sees itself as having won a great victory over religious superstition and religious tyranny. They see this -- the process of secularization -- as the greatest event in history. As a consequence, Christianity has really no influence in the political/social sphere anymore, except on the extreme periphery, and Orthodoxy per se is not likely to have any influence at all on these events either. Which means, I think, that Orthodox believers need to learn how to deal in the world of realpolitique.
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