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**buIf6yoW** · 09-21-2012, 11:06 AM

Hi Nakreeyan and all,
First of all I may not be influent in English but Thai is my mother language so to clarify what's said in that piecing of writing is not insulting farangs and is not relating to farang brand name products like what you understood. It is a reminder for Thais to embrace the Thai culture as some people are misleading Farang culture.

First of all, Englishh is not my first language and I have a rather basic knowledge of the Thai language.

" Do not imitate Farangs. But if you did and appeared to be fake then it is better to engage to something good in the country (Thailand). There are good people all over the world. Do not get so frighten with Farang culture " This is a quote of one of King Rama IV's sons. This is against those young generations in Thailand who are fanatic and influenced by Farang culture that has now spread through out Thailand. Also those who sing farang music claim that they are fashionable and has misled that those who sing Esaan and Thai classical music are outdated or are cavemen who then become shy and timid and have low self-esteem because they are too scare to sing as they're afraid that they would be called ' Lao ' (Thai Essan). Your translation as a THAI is much nearer to my translation which is used as header of this thread: "Don't imitate fahrangs..."

Nowadays, ' Lao ' also refers to people who eat sticky rice as for their main meals as well as those who speak dialects which is not necessarily from only Esaan. It is very insulting to call a Thai 'Lao' but we worship farangs so you farangs should be proud of yourselves being called 'farangs'. however, once we know your countries then we will call you ...say...kon NZ, kon Australian, kon Ameica, kon Norway, kon Farang-ses (french), kon Sweden etc.... Kon = human, person. It's very insulting to call a Thai "Lao", but did it ever crossed your mind that many foreigners (me) feel insulted when they are called "fahrang"?
Even more when the word "Fahrang" is used in a negative context ("Do not imitate fahrangs").

I wonder how many people would feel insulted if they buy a musical instrument in the USA and find a book where is printed:

“Don’t do like Thai/Issaan do. If you have to fake it, then why don’t you just embrace something good from our own? Don’t always be quick to accept the Thai/Issaan culture. We should cherish and preserve our own music culture, because it’s a part of our history and it's equally as good as any MorLam. Don’t try to follow the current MorLam culture of the Thai/Issaan people with those MorLam music styles, just because you want to be a part of the “IN” crowd, and think that anything hip is supposed to be "MorLam".

(Apologizes to Moxy for using his text.)

I don't want to start a hate thread against the Thai/Issaan people.
There is already more than enough hate going on in Thailand (and the rest of the world).

Can you remember what your wife said exactly?

Peace
~Lime~ Yes, I can remember it.

She compared the original text with the translated text and she said exactly:

"The translation is very close to the original text."

PS.: I feel deeply sorry for your motherland in these dark times and hope that these troubles soon will be forgotten.

09-21-2012, 11:06 AM	#2
buIf6yoW Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Hi Nakreeyan and all, First of all I may not be influent in English but Thai is my mother language so to clarify what's said in that piecing of writing is not insulting farangs and is not relating to farang brand name products like what you understood. It is a reminder for Thais to embrace the Thai culture as some people are misleading Farang culture. First of all, Englishh is not my first language and I have a rather basic knowledge of the Thai language. " Do not imitate Farangs. But if you did and appeared to be fake then it is better to engage to something good in the country (Thailand). There are good people all over the world. Do not get so frighten with Farang culture " This is a quote of one of King Rama IV's sons. This is against those young generations in Thailand who are fanatic and influenced by Farang culture that has now spread through out Thailand. Also those who sing farang music claim that they are fashionable and has misled that those who sing Esaan and Thai classical music are outdated or are cavemen who then become shy and timid and have low self-esteem because they are too scare to sing as they're afraid that they would be called ' Lao ' (Thai Essan). Your translation as a THAI is much nearer to my translation which is used as header of this thread: "Don't imitate fahrangs..." Nowadays, ' Lao ' also refers to people who eat sticky rice as for their main meals as well as those who speak dialects which is not necessarily from only Esaan. It is very insulting to call a Thai 'Lao' but we worship farangs so you farangs should be proud of yourselves being called 'farangs'. however, once we know your countries then we will call you ...say...kon NZ, kon Australian, kon Ameica, kon Norway, kon Farang-ses (french), kon Sweden etc.... Kon = human, person. It's very insulting to call a Thai "Lao", but did it ever crossed your mind that many foreigners (me) feel insulted when they are called "fahrang"? Even more when the word "Fahrang" is used in a negative context ("Do not imitate fahrangs"). I wonder how many people would feel insulted if they buy a musical instrument in the USA and find a book where is printed: “Don’t do like Thai/Issaan do. If you have to fake it, then why don’t you just embrace something good from our own? Don’t always be quick to accept the Thai/Issaan culture. We should cherish and preserve our own music culture, because it’s a part of our history and it's equally as good as any MorLam. Don’t try to follow the current MorLam culture of the Thai/Issaan people with those MorLam music styles, just because you want to be a part of the “IN” crowd, and think that anything hip is supposed to be "MorLam". (Apologizes to Moxy for using his text.) I don't want to start a hate thread against the Thai/Issaan people. There is already more than enough hate going on in Thailand (and the rest of the world). Can you remember what your wife said exactly? Peace ~Lime~ Yes, I can remember it. She compared the original text with the translated text and she said exactly: "The translation is very close to the original text." PS.: I feel deeply sorry for your motherland in these dark times and hope that these troubles soon will be forgotten.
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