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I normally don't bother with topics as these. It's like beating a dead horse, however since I'm bored at work I might just as well hand out my opinion.
Imo the bible have been used and misused to support alot of different actions since it was written.
In my opinion most people who misuse the bible do it by not using it at all. They just fine one quote and and build their church on it by quoting or misquoting it.
The bible should be read with a understanding about the authors language, culture, understanding and motive. The context is being nearly as important as what is actually written.
To prove this its not to difficult to find many quotations that can and have been used to promote a message that is different from classic christianity.
Just a few.
DEUTERONOMY 22:13-21
If it is discovered that a bride is not a virgin, the Bible demands that she be executed by stoning immediately.
MARK 12:18-27
If a man dies childless, his widow is ordered by biblical law to have intercourse with each of his brothers in turn until she bears her deceased husband a male heir.
1 THESS 2:15
The jews killed Jesus and the prophets. The jews are enemy of the mankind.
1 EPHESIANS 5:24
Wives should be husbands subordinates because the husband is the head of the wife.
EXODUS 22:16, DEUTR 22:28-29
A rapist must marry his victim
DEUTR 22:23-27
A rapist who raped a engaged woman should be killed if he raped her in the countryside, but if he raped her in town both.
1 PETER 2:18
Slaves must comply with their masters and obey and respect them
1 COR 14:34-35
Women should shut up in church. According to the law they should not speak, if they have questions they shall ask their husband when they get home.
DEUTRONOMY 22:5
A woman can not wear mens clothing, this is offensive to god.
What Jesus said about homosexuality:
What the bible said about homosexuality:
The concept of homosexuality as we know it was coined around 1870. Obviously the authors of the bible could not have known about homosexuality, so what did they know about?
In the classic greek world it was common for men to have sex with other men, it was even more common for men to have sex with boys, the infamous greek boy love which often were related to slavery
In fact greek have a special word for it "arsenokoitai" who litterary means a man who have sex with other men, but it is mostly used within the context of prostitution or the boy love.
In roman 1:26-27 Paul writes generally about living amorally and gives the example of .... prostitution and boy love as sexual perversions. As the true christian he is he also bashes people who have purly sexual relations.
He simply writes about the world he saw. Prostitution, orgies, relationships between adult men and small bous. If he wanted to say anything about what we refer to as homosexuality he could have been clearer and better.
The same for 1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10. These texts aren't about gays who love each other and have a relationship. Paul talks about promiscuity, punters and idol worshipping.
Based on Pauls specific rulings on prostitution, promiscuity and pedophiles, one would stretch the fact a bit if they wanted to make it into a general ruling about gays.
In Lev 18:22 are basically alot of strange laws that are outdated. While it does not condone what seems to be sexual activites between same gender, Lev also states that sex during the womans period, tattos, having a dress with two kinds of cloth and long hair for males are forbidden. Often the punishment are harsh, like stoning. Thx god Lev does allow Polygami!
Sex between the same gender was what the heathens did. So if u did it, u became religiously unclean like if u ate pork. Hence the reference to idol worshipping. It wasnt an ethical ruling on homosexuality per se.
The sin of Sodom, Gen 19, was actually not homosexuality. Lott had welcomed guests in his house when suddenly "all the men – both young and old, from every part of the city of Sodom – surrounded the house" and asked Lott to surrender his guests so they could have sex with them. Lott, like the hero he was, refused and offered his daughters instead.
It seems unlikely that every man in the whole town suddenly became homosexual, in Proverbs 19:13 its clear that Sodoms sin was how they treated their strangers, Jeus touches the subject in Luke 10:5-15 and its mentioned in IS 16:48.
The intended group rape mentioned in Sodom... what has that got to do with homosexuality? As much as any rape has to do with a hetrosexual relationship?
Sorry for the bad paragrahping.
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