OK, I agree with you. Someone who has lived in Thailand long term will start to see other traits that may annoy them. As I was trying to say, this is not just a Thai thing, it happens around the globe. As mentioned before, bad road use could get you shot in the USA and have you ever been to Rome? You have to dodge traffic on the footpath let alone being mindful of the roads. There was a lot more behind FiP's rant than just the consideration, or lack of, that Thai people give to other road users.