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**Soassesaisp** · 09-22-2012, 03:40 AM

I would imagine that since ladyboys consider themselves women it would be approriate to refer to them as she/her.
I think there needs to bee a distinction here made between ladyboys and gay men who are effeminate. Men who are obviously men but gay I don't think would be regarded as ladyboys. There are plenty of "campy" gay men around that don't become ladyboys so let's not get them confused.

I have known personally a couple of ladyboys (operation already) who on going back to their hometown, tie back their hair like a rocker and wear a loose baggy jacket. They have suddenly returned to looking like a man. She could be called a semi-ladyboy as she can switch roles whenever she wants. And no, she isn't gay neither!

This is an example of where ladyboys are accepted, but there is a level to the acceptance. Some families, fathers, feel like they have lost extreme face if their son is a 'ladyboy' or gay.

It depends on the family though. Some are accepting.

Unfortunately, Thais are in the habit of calling any man (or previous man) who acts like a woman a 'katoey', when in fact they are just gay. The Thais have a word 'gay' as in 'gay' but they prefer to use the wrong term 'katoey'.

They use the term 'gay' when the person acts completely like a straight man and one can't notice any difference. As you will know though, most gay guys in Thailand like to act like they are gay and 'show it'.

BTW:
I don't always believe the popular term 'born in a man's body'. Why not? because it is known in Thailand that a lot of ladyboys aren't real ladyboys. Example: at university they wear skirts, bras, adorn make-up (no operation) then a few years later they are wearing a shirt, tie and married with 2 kids!! Having the operation, is the way to truly differentiate.
Don't believe the hype, a lot of so-called ladyboys in Thailand aren't as 'ladyboyish' as they make out!

09-22-2012, 03:40 AM	#19
Soassesaisp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 393 Senior Member	I would imagine that since ladyboys consider themselves women it would be approriate to refer to them as she/her. I think there needs to bee a distinction here made between ladyboys and gay men who are effeminate. Men who are obviously men but gay I don't think would be regarded as ladyboys. There are plenty of "campy" gay men around that don't become ladyboys so let's not get them confused. I have known personally a couple of ladyboys (operation already) who on going back to their hometown, tie back their hair like a rocker and wear a loose baggy jacket. They have suddenly returned to looking like a man. She could be called a semi-ladyboy as she can switch roles whenever she wants. And no, she isn't gay neither! This is an example of where ladyboys are accepted, but there is a level to the acceptance. Some families, fathers, feel like they have lost extreme face if their son is a 'ladyboy' or gay. It depends on the family though. Some are accepting. Unfortunately, Thais are in the habit of calling any man (or previous man) who acts like a woman a 'katoey', when in fact they are just gay. The Thais have a word 'gay' as in 'gay' but they prefer to use the wrong term 'katoey'. They use the term 'gay' when the person acts completely like a straight man and one can't notice any difference. As you will know though, most gay guys in Thailand like to act like they are gay and 'show it'. BTW: I don't always believe the popular term 'born in a man's body'. Why not? because it is known in Thailand that a lot of ladyboys aren't real ladyboys. Example: at university they wear skirts, bras, adorn make-up (no operation) then a few years later they are wearing a shirt, tie and married with 2 kids!! Having the operation, is the way to truly differentiate. Don't believe the hype, a lot of so-called ladyboys in Thailand aren't as 'ladyboyish' as they make out!
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