Thread: Face Facts?
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:53 AM   #3
Yswxomvy

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I have spent quite a lot of the last four years in Thailand. Whilst here and back in the U.K., I have done quite a lot of research into various aspects of Thai culture and psychology. I understand that here the main drive is toward social harmony and there are many social ‘mechanisms’ that are practiced to facilitate this.
I understand the concept of ‘face’ as practiced in Japan, where it is largely based on factors such as dignity, personal honour and integrity. But in Thailand this seems a whole different ball game. As my GF says “in Thailand, the truth can get you killed”. However when I question her about how having and maintaining ‘face’ (whether based on fact or as seems more the case, based on fiction) is engendered into the Thai individual, because in doing so condones many practices that are viewed in the West as negatives, under the general headings of dishonesty, shirking responsibility for one’s actions etc., I get little or no response. I am not surprised as explaining might well bring about a loss of face for her.
I am therefore interested in any information as to how permissibility for false ‘face’ is socialised into the Thai individual, as this seems to allow the individual to be and be known to be a quite a loathsome, irresponsible, sort of person yet also allows them to feel aggrieved if their character is in any way questioned. Most perplexing.
You have raised a thought-provoking issue. Like you I am also groping for a clue to this puzzle. I am merely a 'student' of Thai culture, and far from being an authority on the subject. However, my GUESS is that this has something to do with the way we prioritize our values within a value system. As you may know, sometimes our values come in conflict with one another, but the one on a higher level in our hierarchy of values will reign supreme.

A simplified example would be, if providing for the family is more important than being honest, when pushed to certain limits a father would justify scamming others to be able to earn a living and feed his family.

You mentioned about a very strong Thai value-'maintaning face' - which is not based on honesty, personal honor, and integrity-contrary to how it is thought of in Japan and in other cultures. I think Thais have their own practices to save face. (Maybe you can help me identify them.) And if these means could sometimes run counter to honesty, personal honor, and integrity, I think it is probably because Thais give more premium to saving face within the Thai context than to these abovementioned virtues.

I hope I did not confuse you more. Haha.
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