You 2 really too much. Discuss a topic I'm interested in, but now I have to spend twice as long as normal reading. President Ma may be indecisive and passive/reactive, but he's honest, incorruptible and always does what he thinks is best for the country and people. He's the best president Taiwan have had in the past 20 years. Considering who the other 2 were, that's not saying much though. Tsai has always had a problem with her leadership of DPP. Trying to please the elders while trying to move ahead with the younger group. She ended up trying to please both and now her modus operandi is not to commit herself on anything. Her open party discussion with Su on his role was quite funny. She kept saying that he would be an important part of the campaign without elaborating, and Su kept asking her, "Rang hou leh?"