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**iuopyra** · 06-30-2010, 10:39 PM

Oei! You drive too much taxi and not following news. This is old news oredi.

I think the Chinese girl make a mistake of knowing this Greek fellow. Another Greek tragedy!

June 30th news considered old mah?

Today news old news isit?

Damm stuipid ang moh idiot kill Chinese "for fun" Siam Siam Oz.

http://www.themercury.com.au/article...ofjustice.html

In the few days which followed, both prisoners made two statutory declarations to police about their contact with Ms Yu and what had occurred that evening.

On each occasion the stories were essentially the same, and were to the effect that they had dropped Ms Yu off near a hotel at the corner of Bathurst and Harrington Streets.

Papadopoulos did however admit to friends that he had killed the girl who was missing.

He gave one person to understand that he was proud of what he had done when describing how he had hit her over the head with a brick.

He detailed that he had rammed her head into the table a few times, dragged her up the hallway to the bathroom, put her in the bath, then took her out and wrapped her in blankets. He described how the body had been dumped in a remote area past New Norfolk.

Papadopoulos' unit was searched by police late on 29 June and both men were taken to police headquarters for interview.

Williams admitted the basic events which I have detailed.

These admissions were confirmed in a video recorded interview which was suspended in order that Williams could show police where the body had been dumped.

He accompanied police to the scene and the body was located.

In Williams' interviews with police, he revealed that Papadopoulos had on the night before meeting Ms Yu, said that he wanted to "kill a bitch" or "kill and rape a bitch".

Williams gave evidence to the same effect at his trial.

Papadopoulos does not now dispute saying these things and I am satisfied that they were said.

In his interview with police, Papadopoulos claimed that he was being sexually harassed by Ms Yu, that she said things to him like "kill me, kill me", after which he claimed to have blanked out, and that the next thing he remembered was coming home in the car with Williams, but he did not know from where.

The claim of being pressured for sex was repeated in a later interview, and he gave inconsistent statements about whether attempts had been made to strangle Ms Yu.

He said she got in the bath of her own free will, but admitted holding her face down in the water for less than a minute.
He concluded this interview by saying he was provoked and harassed by Ms Yu asking to have sex with him.

He expressed contempt for Ms Yu in offensive ways.

Forensic examination was not able to establish whether sexual assault had occurred.

Swabs and smears were negative, but since the body had been in the water for several days, an absence of sperm could have been due to water exposure.

Both prisoners were re-interviewed specifically in relation to sexual assault.

Papadopoulos repeated his claim that Ms Yu made sexual advances to him and suggested that she had in effect been responsible for her own death.

Those assertions by Papadopoulos are not now maintained by him.

The Crown says that as to Papadopoulos, this was a planned "thrill" murder, again an assertion not now contradicted.

The case against Williams is that he encouraged Papadopoulos in his violence by watching when required or requested by Papadopoulos, thus providing the audience to his depravity.

Williams actively participated in the killing of Ms Yu when he tied the cord around her neck and pulled it until it broke, and when he assisted to undress her and carry her to the bathroom.

It is specifically asserted that he was present at the time Ms Yu was being held down in the water and was present at the time she ceased making noises, having been summoned to the area several times by Papadopoulos, knowing that his presence was of some encouragement to him.

This encapsulation was not disputed.

I am not satisfied that Williams was privy to any plan or preconceived notion of causing harm to any person which Papadopoulos may have harboured.

I accept that when Papadopoulos said the things he said earlier in the evening, Williams did not pay too much attention to them.

He told police he thought he was repeating psychopathic rap music as he often did.

Although he told police that he was uncomfortable because Papadopoulos was going on a little more than usual, the material satisfies me that when Papadopoulos struck Ms Yu with the Besser block, it came as a complete surprise to Williams. I include Williams' own evidence in this material. In his evidence at the trial Williams admitted that after Papadopoulos had struck Ms Yu and taken her to the bedroom area of the unit, he did nothing but continue to heavily smoke cannabis.

He admitted the following:

• hearing a commotion from the other end of the unit;

• later going to the toilet where he saw Ms Yu at the bathroom door with blood all over her and Papadopoulos telling her to get in the shower to wash up, and then seeing Papadopoulos take her to the bedroom and punch her;

• later going to the bedroom at Papadopoulos' request, at which point the incident with the power cord took place, and removing her underpants and helping Papadopoulos put her on a sheet and drag her to the bathroom; and

• later going back again, once when called by Papadopoulos, and once when going to the toilet, Papadopoulos on each occasion having Ms Yu in the bath.

• This was first face up with no water in the bath, and then being held face down in the water.

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iuopyra Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	Oei! You drive too much taxi and not following news. This is old news oredi. I think the Chinese girl make a mistake of knowing this Greek fellow. Another Greek tragedy! June 30th news considered old mah? Today news old news isit? Damm stuipid ang moh idiot kill Chinese "for fun" Siam Siam Oz. http://www.themercury.com.au/article...ofjustice.html In the few days which followed, both prisoners made two statutory declarations to police about their contact with Ms Yu and what had occurred that evening. On each occasion the stories were essentially the same, and were to the effect that they had dropped Ms Yu off near a hotel at the corner of Bathurst and Harrington Streets. Papadopoulos did however admit to friends that he had killed the girl who was missing. He gave one person to understand that he was proud of what he had done when describing how he had hit her over the head with a brick. He detailed that he had rammed her head into the table a few times, dragged her up the hallway to the bathroom, put her in the bath, then took her out and wrapped her in blankets. He described how the body had been dumped in a remote area past New Norfolk. Papadopoulos' unit was searched by police late on 29 June and both men were taken to police headquarters for interview. Williams admitted the basic events which I have detailed. These admissions were confirmed in a video recorded interview which was suspended in order that Williams could show police where the body had been dumped. He accompanied police to the scene and the body was located. In Williams' interviews with police, he revealed that Papadopoulos had on the night before meeting Ms Yu, said that he wanted to "kill a bitch" or "kill and rape a bitch". Williams gave evidence to the same effect at his trial. Papadopoulos does not now dispute saying these things and I am satisfied that they were said. In his interview with police, Papadopoulos claimed that he was being sexually harassed by Ms Yu, that she said things to him like "kill me, kill me", after which he claimed to have blanked out, and that the next thing he remembered was coming home in the car with Williams, but he did not know from where. The claim of being pressured for sex was repeated in a later interview, and he gave inconsistent statements about whether attempts had been made to strangle Ms Yu. He said she got in the bath of her own free will, but admitted holding her face down in the water for less than a minute. He concluded this interview by saying he was provoked and harassed by Ms Yu asking to have sex with him. He expressed contempt for Ms Yu in offensive ways. Forensic examination was not able to establish whether sexual assault had occurred. Swabs and smears were negative, but since the body had been in the water for several days, an absence of sperm could have been due to water exposure. Both prisoners were re-interviewed specifically in relation to sexual assault. Papadopoulos repeated his claim that Ms Yu made sexual advances to him and suggested that she had in effect been responsible for her own death. Those assertions by Papadopoulos are not now maintained by him. The Crown says that as to Papadopoulos, this was a planned "thrill" murder, again an assertion not now contradicted. The case against Williams is that he encouraged Papadopoulos in his violence by watching when required or requested by Papadopoulos, thus providing the audience to his depravity. Williams actively participated in the killing of Ms Yu when he tied the cord around her neck and pulled it until it broke, and when he assisted to undress her and carry her to the bathroom. It is specifically asserted that he was present at the time Ms Yu was being held down in the water and was present at the time she ceased making noises, having been summoned to the area several times by Papadopoulos, knowing that his presence was of some encouragement to him. This encapsulation was not disputed. I am not satisfied that Williams was privy to any plan or preconceived notion of causing harm to any person which Papadopoulos may have harboured. I accept that when Papadopoulos said the things he said earlier in the evening, Williams did not pay too much attention to them. He told police he thought he was repeating psychopathic rap music as he often did. Although he told police that he was uncomfortable because Papadopoulos was going on a little more than usual, the material satisfies me that when Papadopoulos struck Ms Yu with the Besser block, it came as a complete surprise to Williams. I include Williams' own evidence in this material. In his evidence at the trial Williams admitted that after Papadopoulos had struck Ms Yu and taken her to the bedroom area of the unit, he did nothing but continue to heavily smoke cannabis. He admitted the following: • hearing a commotion from the other end of the unit; • later going to the toilet where he saw Ms Yu at the bathroom door with blood all over her and Papadopoulos telling her to get in the shower to wash up, and then seeing Papadopoulos take her to the bedroom and punch her; • later going to the bedroom at Papadopoulos' request, at which point the incident with the power cord took place, and removing her underpants and helping Papadopoulos put her on a sheet and drag her to the bathroom; and • later going back again, once when called by Papadopoulos, and once when going to the toilet, Papadopoulos on each occasion having Ms Yu in the bath. • This was first face up with no water in the bath, and then being held face down in the water.
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