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**Qeiafib** · 08-17-2012, 02:18 AM

Some of the most prominent Communists, Socialists, Marxists, and every other bad 'ist' were/are Jewish. I just don't see how you can make a claim that the Democratic party is anti-semitic in general.

Some of the most prominent anybody were/are Jewish. They (particularly the Ashkenazic branch) are probably the smartest, most ambitious ethnic group in the world. Which is also the main reason they tend to get blamed for every problem.

Sailaway is exactly right when he says "the line really is blurry between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism." I have personally known Palestinians who, I can say without a doubt, hold no grudges against Jewish people, and will even speak admiringly of certain aspects of Israeli society; they're just not big fans of their "bulldoze Palestinian cities" policy. Meanwhile, there are plenty of European leftists whose criticism of Israeli policy pretty clearly stems from a hatred of Jews, such hatred being to this day far more common in Europe than it is—thank God—in the United States.

In fact, while the piece that Sailaway posted gives some pretty interesting arguments, I really don't see anti-semitism taking hold among any political group in this country. There has been that trend in Canada and in Europe, and I think it has to do with the knee-jerk leftist suspicion of success, but this has been a trend of leftist politics since the 19th century. I could be wrong, but Americans of both sides of the political spectrum just seem to have very little patience for that kind of resentment.

08-17-2012, 02:18 AM	#36
Qeiafib Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	Some of the most prominent Communists, Socialists, Marxists, and every other bad 'ist' were/are Jewish. I just don't see how you can make a claim that the Democratic party is anti-semitic in general. Some of the most prominent anybody were/are Jewish. They (particularly the Ashkenazic branch) are probably the smartest, most ambitious ethnic group in the world. Which is also the main reason they tend to get blamed for every problem. Sailaway is exactly right when he says "the line really is blurry between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism." I have personally known Palestinians who, I can say without a doubt, hold no grudges against Jewish people, and will even speak admiringly of certain aspects of Israeli society; they're just not big fans of their "bulldoze Palestinian cities" policy. Meanwhile, there are plenty of European leftists whose criticism of Israeli policy pretty clearly stems from a hatred of Jews, such hatred being to this day far more common in Europe than it is—thank God—in the United States. In fact, while the piece that Sailaway posted gives some pretty interesting arguments, I really don't see anti-semitism taking hold among any political group in this country. There has been that trend in Canada and in Europe, and I think it has to do with the knee-jerk leftist suspicion of success, but this has been a trend of leftist politics since the 19th century. I could be wrong, but Americans of both sides of the political spectrum just seem to have very little patience for that kind of resentment.
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