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**mr.nemo** · 02-08-2012, 11:24 PM

So, then, we should ban knives, and rocks, etc. since you can always catch somebody by surprise. That's why cops don't need guns either.

Seriously, while the element of surprise gives an edge to the attacker, police and civilian defensive gun uses show that it's far from a game-changer; it isn't the only variable in the equation. Indeed, the element of "surprise" can work for the victim as well. It's only one of many factors. Furthermore, the attacker in China (also applies to Colorado) might be able to pick off a few people, but he might and likely would have been stopped before he managed to kill as many had one of his victims been armed. But, as in Colorado, they weren't permitted to carry guns, so his victims were sitting ducks.

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mr.nemo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	So, then, we should ban knives, and rocks, etc. since you can always catch somebody by surprise. That's why cops don't need guns either. Seriously, while the element of surprise gives an edge to the attacker, police and civilian defensive gun uses show that it's far from a game-changer; it isn't the only variable in the equation. Indeed, the element of "surprise" can work for the victim as well. It's only one of many factors. Furthermore, the attacker in China (also applies to Colorado) might be able to pick off a few people, but he might and likely would have been stopped before he managed to kill as many had one of his victims been armed. But, as in Colorado, they weren't permitted to carry guns, so his victims were sitting ducks.
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