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**Roorseprate** · 02-19-2010, 01:29 AM

What is your aversion to reading exactly?

OBL didn't provide the training. He didn't have any military training of his own. That video where he's firing the Kalishnikov should make that perfectly clear.

He provided the ideology? That'll sure come as news to Saayed Qutb.

Please, read a book or two before trying to correct someone who has.

Bin Laden didn't provide the ideology for 9/11? Are you smoking crack?
Here's some required reading for you Mr. Revisionist history:

Osama Bin Laden - Fatwa- Background and Declaration of War against the Americans Ocupying the two Holy Places
Osama Bin Laden Fatwa - 1998

Need some help? The links have the text of Bin Laden's 1996 and 1998 fatwas against the US-that's a religious edict urging jihad against the US. Need more help? It's a declaration of war against the United States. Nice try.

Oh-Bin Laden didn't provide the training eh?

Try this:

September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Excerpts:
"In late 1998 or early 1999, bin Laden gave approval for Mohammed to go forward with organizing the plot. A series of meetings occurred in spring of 1999, involving Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Osama bin Laden, and his deputy Mohammed Atef. Mohammed provided operational support for the plot, including target selections and helping arrange travel for the hijackers.[94] Bin Laden overruled Mohammed, rejecting some potential targets such as the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles because "there was not enough time to prepare for such an operation".

Bin Laden provided leadership for the plot, along with financial support, and was involved in selecting participants for the plot. Bin Laden initially selected Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, both experienced jihadists who fought in Bosnia. Hazmi and Mihdhar arrived in the United States in mid-January 2000, after traveling to Malaysia to attend the Kuala Lumpur al-Qaeda Summit. In spring 2000, Hazmi and Mihdhar took flying lessons in San Diego, California, but both spoke little English, did not do well with flying lessons, and eventually served as "muscle" hijackers."

Not convinced? Try this:

The laughing 9/11 bombers - Times Online

Need help? it's Mohammed Atta's martydom video filmed in a Bin Laden training camp in Afghanistan:

"FILM of the ringleader of the September 11 hijackers reading his “martyrdom” will inside Afghanistan at Osama Bin Laden’s headquarters has emerged five years after the Al-Qaeda outrage.
It is the first time that a videotape has appeared of Mohammed Atta — who flew an American Airlines plane into the north tower of the World Trade Center — at a training camp in Afghanistan. It fills in a significant gap in the timing of the build-up to the attacks on the United States."

Do you have any response to this? Or like George Bush-do you not "think about him anymore"?

Read a book or two? You need to start with the 9-11 Commission Report. I read it. Did you?
What an effing disgrace.

02-19-2010, 01:29 AM	#35
Roorseprate Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 659 Senior Member	What is your aversion to reading exactly? OBL didn't provide the training. He didn't have any military training of his own. That video where he's firing the Kalishnikov should make that perfectly clear. He provided the ideology? That'll sure come as news to Saayed Qutb. Please, read a book or two before trying to correct someone who has. Bin Laden didn't provide the ideology for 9/11? Are you smoking crack? Here's some required reading for you Mr. Revisionist history: Osama Bin Laden - Fatwa- Background and Declaration of War against the Americans Ocupying the two Holy Places Osama Bin Laden Fatwa - 1998 Need some help? The links have the text of Bin Laden's 1996 and 1998 fatwas against the US-that's a religious edict urging jihad against the US. Need more help? It's a declaration of war against the United States. Nice try. Oh-Bin Laden didn't provide the training eh? Try this: September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Excerpts: "In late 1998 or early 1999, bin Laden gave approval for Mohammed to go forward with organizing the plot. A series of meetings occurred in spring of 1999, involving Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Osama bin Laden, and his deputy Mohammed Atef. Mohammed provided operational support for the plot, including target selections and helping arrange travel for the hijackers.[94] Bin Laden overruled Mohammed, rejecting some potential targets such as the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles because "there was not enough time to prepare for such an operation". Bin Laden provided leadership for the plot, along with financial support, and was involved in selecting participants for the plot. Bin Laden initially selected Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, both experienced jihadists who fought in Bosnia. Hazmi and Mihdhar arrived in the United States in mid-January 2000, after traveling to Malaysia to attend the Kuala Lumpur al-Qaeda Summit. In spring 2000, Hazmi and Mihdhar took flying lessons in San Diego, California, but both spoke little English, did not do well with flying lessons, and eventually served as "muscle" hijackers." Not convinced? Try this: The laughing 9/11 bombers - Times Online Need help? it's Mohammed Atta's martydom video filmed in a Bin Laden training camp in Afghanistan: "FILM of the ringleader of the September 11 hijackers reading his “martyrdom” will inside Afghanistan at Osama Bin Laden’s headquarters has emerged five years after the Al-Qaeda outrage. It is the first time that a videotape has appeared of Mohammed Atta — who flew an American Airlines plane into the north tower of the World Trade Center — at a training camp in Afghanistan. It fills in a significant gap in the timing of the build-up to the attacks on the United States." Do you have any response to this? Or like George Bush-do you not "think about him anymore"? Read a book or two? You need to start with the 9-11 Commission Report. I read it. Did you? What an effing disgrace.
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