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**Coellacag** · 01-26-2010, 10:52 PM

I'm just curious how WWI and WWII fit into Viburnum's "feel good" personal mythology of western culture in the 20th century. Maybe throw in the Cold War and its related proxy conflicts too. It also seems the things that are most anathema to him/her (socialism, fascism, etc.) are unarguably products of the "good culture."

It’s a good question.

If you examine it, WWI, II and The Cold War were all brought on by the aggressors breaking with the values of higher culture, specifically, what we call Judeo Christian values.

The paganism and occultism embraced by the Nazis as well as their hostility towards other, traditional religions dovetails nicely with low culture. The Soviet Union’s hostility towards religion again, represents a rejection of J/C values and directly leads to their bellicosity, hatred for other ethnic groups, duplicity, and subjugation of those under their rule.

To a lesser degree, as EU moves away from high culture, both through massive third world immigration and a growing atheism/agnosticism, their countries and cultures are deteriorating, of which socialism is a key aspect.

On a side note, both Haiti (96%) and the Dominican Republic (95%) are described as Christian. So why is one country simply a third world backwater while the other is a glimpse into the bowels of hell? Voodoo. Many of the “Christians” in Haiti practice a religion so infused with Voodoo that it would be unrecognizable to any Christian from a civilized country.

The same is true of much of Africa and South/Central America where their brand of religion is so infected with elements of animism or ancestor worship, that it bears little resemblance to actual Christianity.

Unfortunately, when Judeo Christian practices are fused with elements of low culture/religion the most virtuous parts of J/C are usually the first to go.

01-26-2010, 10:52 PM	#33
Coellacag Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	I'm just curious how WWI and WWII fit into Viburnum's "feel good" personal mythology of western culture in the 20th century. Maybe throw in the Cold War and its related proxy conflicts too. It also seems the things that are most anathema to him/her (socialism, fascism, etc.) are unarguably products of the "good culture." It’s a good question. If you examine it, WWI, II and The Cold War were all brought on by the aggressors breaking with the values of higher culture, specifically, what we call Judeo Christian values. The paganism and occultism embraced by the Nazis as well as their hostility towards other, traditional religions dovetails nicely with low culture. The Soviet Union’s hostility towards religion again, represents a rejection of J/C values and directly leads to their bellicosity, hatred for other ethnic groups, duplicity, and subjugation of those under their rule. To a lesser degree, as EU moves away from high culture, both through massive third world immigration and a growing atheism/agnosticism, their countries and cultures are deteriorating, of which socialism is a key aspect. On a side note, both Haiti (96%) and the Dominican Republic (95%) are described as Christian. So why is one country simply a third world backwater while the other is a glimpse into the bowels of hell? Voodoo. Many of the “Christians” in Haiti practice a religion so infused with Voodoo that it would be unrecognizable to any Christian from a civilized country. The same is true of much of Africa and South/Central America where their brand of religion is so infected with elements of animism or ancestor worship, that it bears little resemblance to actual Christianity. Unfortunately, when Judeo Christian practices are fused with elements of low culture/religion the most virtuous parts of J/C are usually the first to go.
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