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**dserbokim** · 11-29-2009, 08:15 AM

The article did not admit hackers are loners. Did you also pass over the whole part about organized security breaches from China?

I did indeed, and there's a vast difference between the subtlety it takes to hack into say eBay and the steal the personal information and credit card numbers of tens of thousand of users and the ham-fisted techniques the Chinese have employed in their attempts at cyber espionage .

Also, a security concern can be from a lone person or a coordinated group. I don't see how even arguing over that point has anything to do with the security issues raised. You are discounting the whole discussion because you don't like the theoretical worst case scenario? I'm discounting their worst case scenario as it is simply the plot of a recent Hollywood movie and has no basis in fact (certainly no basis supported by the article it heads). It's very similar in form to the Corbu article you posted: they lead with a sensationalistic opening paragraph which is completely unsupported by the rest of the piece.

If they're actually afraid of a massive, coordinated attack that takes down the systems they mentioned, all we have to do is look to the movie for the solution to prevent it:

Again, if you have anything to put forward disputing the security issue information, I would like to see it. Otherwise it looks like you are just trying to argue because you don't like the Manhattan Institute. I don't like the Manhattan Institute. In this case, they are also wrong, and have constructed a fear-mongering piece which doesn't actually logically support itself.

11-29-2009, 08:15 AM	#8
dserbokim Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	The article did not admit hackers are loners. Did you also pass over the whole part about organized security breaches from China? I did indeed, and there's a vast difference between the subtlety it takes to hack into say eBay and the steal the personal information and credit card numbers of tens of thousand of users and the ham-fisted techniques the Chinese have employed in their attempts at cyber espionage . Also, a security concern can be from a lone person or a coordinated group. I don't see how even arguing over that point has anything to do with the security issues raised. You are discounting the whole discussion because you don't like the theoretical worst case scenario? I'm discounting their worst case scenario as it is simply the plot of a recent Hollywood movie and has no basis in fact (certainly no basis supported by the article it heads). It's very similar in form to the Corbu article you posted: they lead with a sensationalistic opening paragraph which is completely unsupported by the rest of the piece. If they're actually afraid of a massive, coordinated attack that takes down the systems they mentioned, all we have to do is look to the movie for the solution to prevent it: Again, if you have anything to put forward disputing the security issue information, I would like to see it. Otherwise it looks like you are just trying to argue because you don't like the Manhattan Institute. I don't like the Manhattan Institute. In this case, they are also wrong, and have constructed a fear-mongering piece which doesn't actually logically support itself.
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