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**Hoijdxvh** · 09-29-2009, 01:49 AM

...compared with the frighteningly naive, dangerous, reckless cowboy foreign policy and war on intelligence waged by Obama's predecessor. The result of US foreign policy from 2000-2008 was to vault Iran to the national stage by removing their bitter rival (Iraq) and put Iran's cronies in charge of Iraq, bring them closer to a nuclear weapon-and it saw the triumph of radical Islam politically in Iran (Ahmenijahad), Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Palestine (Hamas). Let's not forget the recruitment boon to Bin Laden thanks to the Iraq invasion (confirmed by US intelligence), and the Abu Ghraib disaster-which inflamed the Muslim world.

Bin Laden and the Taliban?-both alive and well and making videos bashing the US thanks to the prior administration's focus on Saddam Hussein and his still missing weapons of mass destruction.

IMO-Obama has already delivered results-attributable to the following moves:

1) focusing US anti-terror efforts to AfPak-an additional 21000 troops in Afghanistan and revamping US counter terrorism strategy there. While US deaths are up-the fight has been finally taken to the Taliban-who easily reconstituted after the Bush non-invasion there. While the situation is still bad-at least the focus is now there-where Bin Laden was harbored-instead of Iraq.
2) Pakistan-Obama conditioned US aid to Pakistan on their willingness to take the fight to terrorists-and now Baitalluh Medsud is dead and the Taliban is on the run thanks to a massive pakistani army offensive.
3) Iran-overtures to moderates in the Muslim world led to the resurgence of the reformists in Iran-Why? Ahmenijahad's anti US rhetoric-the cornerstone of his policy-rang on deaf ears during the election since Obama was reaching out to the muslim world. The top reformist candidate relied on a moderate tone on the US and people flooded the streets in protest of Ahmenijahad's election. The reformists are planning to run signficant candidates in parliamentary elections.
4) Hezbollah? Routed in the recent elections since Obama's overtures.
5) Russia? Obama removed missles in Poland-and the Russians are now talking tough to Iran. Coincidence? Who worries you more-Iran or Russia?
Obama-with Sec. Gates behind him-is revamping the Aegis anti missle shield which is better targeted to Iran missle capabilities rather than Russia-which is much less of a threat. Iran is already reacting defensively to Obama's recent address and the US is proposing new sanctions-announced yesterday. I'll bet money Russia backs them in some form.

Coincidence? I think not.

09-29-2009, 01:49 AM	#5
Hoijdxvh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	...compared with the frighteningly naive, dangerous, reckless cowboy foreign policy and war on intelligence waged by Obama's predecessor. The result of US foreign policy from 2000-2008 was to vault Iran to the national stage by removing their bitter rival (Iraq) and put Iran's cronies in charge of Iraq, bring them closer to a nuclear weapon-and it saw the triumph of radical Islam politically in Iran (Ahmenijahad), Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Palestine (Hamas). Let's not forget the recruitment boon to Bin Laden thanks to the Iraq invasion (confirmed by US intelligence), and the Abu Ghraib disaster-which inflamed the Muslim world. Bin Laden and the Taliban?-both alive and well and making videos bashing the US thanks to the prior administration's focus on Saddam Hussein and his still missing weapons of mass destruction. IMO-Obama has already delivered results-attributable to the following moves: 1) focusing US anti-terror efforts to AfPak-an additional 21000 troops in Afghanistan and revamping US counter terrorism strategy there. While US deaths are up-the fight has been finally taken to the Taliban-who easily reconstituted after the Bush non-invasion there. While the situation is still bad-at least the focus is now there-where Bin Laden was harbored-instead of Iraq. 2) Pakistan-Obama conditioned US aid to Pakistan on their willingness to take the fight to terrorists-and now Baitalluh Medsud is dead and the Taliban is on the run thanks to a massive pakistani army offensive. 3) Iran-overtures to moderates in the Muslim world led to the resurgence of the reformists in Iran-Why? Ahmenijahad's anti US rhetoric-the cornerstone of his policy-rang on deaf ears during the election since Obama was reaching out to the muslim world. The top reformist candidate relied on a moderate tone on the US and people flooded the streets in protest of Ahmenijahad's election. The reformists are planning to run signficant candidates in parliamentary elections. 4) Hezbollah? Routed in the recent elections since Obama's overtures. 5) Russia? Obama removed missles in Poland-and the Russians are now talking tough to Iran. Coincidence? Who worries you more-Iran or Russia? Obama-with Sec. Gates behind him-is revamping the Aegis anti missle shield which is better targeted to Iran missle capabilities rather than Russia-which is much less of a threat. Iran is already reacting defensively to Obama's recent address and the US is proposing new sanctions-announced yesterday. I'll bet money Russia backs them in some form. Coincidence? I think not.
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