DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

**SmuffNuSMaxqh** · 12-08-2009, 06:57 PM

mmmm.....that's a tad sensationalistic article.

I've never been to England, I doubt is as bad as the article says it is, of course there must be crime, but more violent than the US?

They mention that in the article, but they don't show numbers to compare it or sustain it.

It's ranked 13th out of 27 countries in homicides, not good, but no Somalia neither.

Also, I would like to know what do they consider Violent Crimes, I bet a big chunk on reported "violent" incidents are something like drunk fights in pubs or things along that line, not exactly shooting amish girls at a school, beating a random guy to death over spilled beer at a sports bar, beating with a hammer some random passanger in the subway or killing and eating your toddler's brain, etc just to name a few of what I imagine when I see the word "violent crime"

Actually, scrolling down on the article (after a convenient break in the story):
But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.

In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured. So probably even a heated discussion, with pulling and pushing involved but no injuries or hitting is a "violent crime", if anything that shows me it's a pretty peaceful country, since it consider such things as violent.

Then again, I don't think UK is paradise, don't think such country exists.

12-08-2009, 06:57 PM	#6
SmuffNuSMaxqh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 587 Senior Member	mmmm.....that's a tad sensationalistic article. I've never been to England, I doubt is as bad as the article says it is, of course there must be crime, but more violent than the US? They mention that in the article, but they don't show numbers to compare it or sustain it. It's ranked 13th out of 27 countries in homicides, not good, but no Somalia neither. Also, I would like to know what do they consider Violent Crimes, I bet a big chunk on reported "violent" incidents are something like drunk fights in pubs or things along that line, not exactly shooting amish girls at a school, beating a random guy to death over spilled beer at a sports bar, beating with a hammer some random passanger in the subway or killing and eating your toddler's brain, etc just to name a few of what I imagine when I see the word "violent crime" Actually, scrolling down on the article (after a convenient break in the story): But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured. In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured. So probably even a heated discussion, with pulling and pushing involved but no injuries or hitting is a "violent crime", if anything that shows me it's a pretty peaceful country, since it consider such things as violent. Then again, I don't think UK is paradise, don't think such country exists.
	Quote