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**Pjayjukr** · 12-08-2009, 07:19 PM

Yes, I agree that the way crimes are counted and classified makes a major difference--politicians and law enforcement can tweak numbers and statistics to suit their agendas of a given moment. To wit, the much touted numbers that the murder rate in Philly is way down, to me, a lot of this seems like smoke and mirrors employed by the Nutter regime.

I checked out the legal definition of affray and you are quite correct!:

In the Public Order Act (1986) the British government replaced the common law offence [of affray] with a statutory definition at ¶3 as follows:

"A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety.

"Where 2 or more persons use or threaten the unlawful violence, it is the conduct of them taken together that must be considered for the purposes of (the above).

"For the purposes of this section a threat cannot be made by the use of words alone.

"No person of reasonable firmness need actually be, or be likely to be, present at the scene.

"Affray may be committed in private as well as in public places."

12-08-2009, 07:19 PM	#7
Pjayjukr Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	Yes, I agree that the way crimes are counted and classified makes a major difference--politicians and law enforcement can tweak numbers and statistics to suit their agendas of a given moment. To wit, the much touted numbers that the murder rate in Philly is way down, to me, a lot of this seems like smoke and mirrors employed by the Nutter regime. I checked out the legal definition of affray and you are quite correct!: In the Public Order Act (1986) the British government replaced the common law offence [of affray] with a statutory definition at ¶3 as follows: "A person is guilty of affray if he uses or threatens unlawful violence towards another and his conduct is such as would cause a person of reasonable firmness present at the scene to fear for his personal safety. "Where 2 or more persons use or threaten the unlawful violence, it is the conduct of them taken together that must be considered for the purposes of (the above). "For the purposes of this section a threat cannot be made by the use of words alone. "No person of reasonable firmness need actually be, or be likely to be, present at the scene. "Affray may be committed in private as well as in public places."
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