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**KneefeZes** · 12-08-2009, 09:58 PM

You make some valid points I guess though I would like to see some evidence of unreported murders. Have you read somewhere about that? Crime/assault yes but not murder imo.

From what I was looking at the unemployement rate over all is still lower than the UK as a whole. For some years N. Ireland was benefiting economically from hanging on the tail of the Celtic Tiger boom in the South though that too has waned. The Cross border cooperation also helped industry in the North.

I guess this is a different topic though.
I am thinking that UKs overall crime rate may also have to do with some unbridled immigration and the creation of a melting pot that the country was not ready for in many ways.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to infer that there were unreported murders, but more so unreported violent crimes such as robbery, assault ect. I believe the stats concerning homicides.

Where the employment stats have certainly improved over the course of the decade, there are still pockets of extreme unemployment. The Celtic Tiger only reached so far unfortunately, and it didn't rectify the situation entirely. A quick glance at the last year will show that numerous companies and firms have left the north and have taken the jobs with them. While I have no evidence of such, I honestly believe that Catholic unemployment numbers are historically distorted by the Orange political machine, and thus can not be completely known. There is every motivation to obscure high levels of unemployment among the Catholic population to hide the fact that they have been historically discriminated against by the Unionist governments.

But yeah, that's a completely different animal to take on. Lots of complex economic theory to digest and interpret for a complete picture, and frankly, I'm no economist.

12-08-2009, 09:58 PM	#17
KneefeZes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	You make some valid points I guess though I would like to see some evidence of unreported murders. Have you read somewhere about that? Crime/assault yes but not murder imo. From what I was looking at the unemployement rate over all is still lower than the UK as a whole. For some years N. Ireland was benefiting economically from hanging on the tail of the Celtic Tiger boom in the South though that too has waned. The Cross border cooperation also helped industry in the North. I guess this is a different topic though. I am thinking that UKs overall crime rate may also have to do with some unbridled immigration and the creation of a melting pot that the country was not ready for in many ways. Sorry, I wasn't trying to infer that there were unreported murders, but more so unreported violent crimes such as robbery, assault ect. I believe the stats concerning homicides. Where the employment stats have certainly improved over the course of the decade, there are still pockets of extreme unemployment. The Celtic Tiger only reached so far unfortunately, and it didn't rectify the situation entirely. A quick glance at the last year will show that numerous companies and firms have left the north and have taken the jobs with them. While I have no evidence of such, I honestly believe that Catholic unemployment numbers are historically distorted by the Orange political machine, and thus can not be completely known. There is every motivation to obscure high levels of unemployment among the Catholic population to hide the fact that they have been historically discriminated against by the Unionist governments. But yeah, that's a completely different animal to take on. Lots of complex economic theory to digest and interpret for a complete picture, and frankly, I'm no economist.
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