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**PriniMai** · 02-21-2009, 01:15 AM

and that's not a normal part of life? PArt of the problem stems from people's thinking that everything and everyone shoudl live perfectly according to their rules. Drug abuse is a problem, just like those guys who do nothing but drink all day on the street. drug use is okay (well, some drugs). It's also to be expected that some people willuse them more than they should. that's part of life.

they were popular entertainers. JFK was addicted to women and painkillers and he has streets named after him and was president of the US. Would I be upset with Obama in tightie whities photos? yep. the Post office is a government company. As such, they should do what their customers want. I think the whole thing is stupid, personally, but I'm not upset about it. People get vanity plates too. The psot office is probably an unnecessary at that.
I'm more upset with the people urinating in SEPTA stations or keeping the DC consultants rich.

That's part of the problem. So many people are taking drugs that people make statements as if it really is normal.
Our normal state of mind is the one we have without altering our conciousness. I can't see how seeking a different state of mind is not unusual but I do see how many think it's the usual, they're on drugs.
It's become customary in an anything goes society.

I'm talking about an Ideal here, or our best use of role models,and in no way think that Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy or any other President, or for that matter persons in general, are the perfect role models but using people who commited suicide or died from unintentional overdoses seems for the most part unthinking and absurd to me personally.

Kurt Colbain was a popular entertainer, So were Janis Joplin, Jimmi Hendrix, and Jim Morrison but the fact remains that they died as the result of drugs and should not be held up as hero's or receive special recognition from any Government agency.

The real problem is "blaming others", because of rules which are considered as moral standards or ideals, and it's typical of those who rebel against a perceived unfair society because that society has set certain standards to keep some sembalance of order and sanity within that society.

I can pick hundreds of things, or people who are imperfect yet are used as a societal standard, but even in doing so it doesn't make ingesting drugs or dying from an overdose normal nor an ideal as rolemodels.

Seeking inner peace without the use of drugs is something I consider the best alternative if one is not happy or content with their own current state of mind. They're are many avenues for doing that without chemical or artificial means.

I come from what I call the "Experiment generation" and remember well having similar views that I see you express here, and I'd find it amusing if I didn't have so many tragic stories to tell of others{friends and relatives}, who like me held those very same views at that time. I got out, they died or are still living in misery.
People who use drugs think they're too smart to fall into the traps, but it has nothing to do with watchfulness or intellect. It grabs people when they least expect it and it's got them long before they've even realized it.
I consider alcohol a drug too.

I'm not upset about any of the things I mentioned in my previous posts either.

I'm not upset about anything I'm saying in this post.

I just happen to see it the way I've outlined it, based on my own experience as opposed to speculation.

We're all just finding our own way and I respect your right to do that, and in no way am I criticizing your veiws.

Nobody has the rule book towards perfection.

02-21-2009, 01:15 AM	#16
PriniMai Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 356 Senior Member	and that's not a normal part of life? PArt of the problem stems from people's thinking that everything and everyone shoudl live perfectly according to their rules. Drug abuse is a problem, just like those guys who do nothing but drink all day on the street. drug use is okay (well, some drugs). It's also to be expected that some people willuse them more than they should. that's part of life. they were popular entertainers. JFK was addicted to women and painkillers and he has streets named after him and was president of the US. Would I be upset with Obama in tightie whities photos? yep. the Post office is a government company. As such, they should do what their customers want. I think the whole thing is stupid, personally, but I'm not upset about it. People get vanity plates too. The psot office is probably an unnecessary at that. I'm more upset with the people urinating in SEPTA stations or keeping the DC consultants rich. That's part of the problem. So many people are taking drugs that people make statements as if it really is normal. Our normal state of mind is the one we have without altering our conciousness. I can't see how seeking a different state of mind is not unusual but I do see how many think it's the usual, they're on drugs. It's become customary in an anything goes society. I'm talking about an Ideal here, or our best use of role models,and in no way think that Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy or any other President, or for that matter persons in general, are the perfect role models but using people who commited suicide or died from unintentional overdoses seems for the most part unthinking and absurd to me personally. Kurt Colbain was a popular entertainer, So were Janis Joplin, Jimmi Hendrix, and Jim Morrison but the fact remains that they died as the result of drugs and should not be held up as hero's or receive special recognition from any Government agency. The real problem is "blaming others", because of rules which are considered as moral standards or ideals, and it's typical of those who rebel against a perceived unfair society because that society has set certain standards to keep some sembalance of order and sanity within that society. I can pick hundreds of things, or people who are imperfect yet are used as a societal standard, but even in doing so it doesn't make ingesting drugs or dying from an overdose normal nor an ideal as rolemodels. Seeking inner peace without the use of drugs is something I consider the best alternative if one is not happy or content with their own current state of mind. They're are many avenues for doing that without chemical or artificial means. I come from what I call the "Experiment generation" and remember well having similar views that I see you express here, and I'd find it amusing if I didn't have so many tragic stories to tell of others{friends and relatives}, who like me held those very same views at that time. I got out, they died or are still living in misery. People who use drugs think they're too smart to fall into the traps, but it has nothing to do with watchfulness or intellect. It grabs people when they least expect it and it's got them long before they've even realized it. I consider alcohol a drug too. I'm not upset about any of the things I mentioned in my previous posts either. I'm not upset about anything I'm saying in this post. I just happen to see it the way I've outlined it, based on my own experience as opposed to speculation. We're all just finding our own way and I respect your right to do that, and in no way am I criticizing your veiws. Nobody has the rule book towards perfection.
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