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**puzobok** · 05-19-2011, 09:50 PM

Take a look at the following government budgets on a per person basis (in US dollars):

Dom Rep: $700
Jamaica: $1,379
Puerto Rico: $1,750
Cuba: $4,273
USA: $6,386
Canada: $17,824
France: 18,462

Look what happens under the when Haiti’s problems are added to each country independently:

Dom Rep: $355 (50% decline)
Jamaica: $315 (77%)
Puerto Rico: $511 (71%)
Cuba: $2,238 (48%)
United States: $6,192 (3%)
Canada: $13,773 (23%)
France: $16,000 (13%)

The numbers speak for themselves, and all of those countries except Puerto Rico and Canada, are threatened with the illegal immigration flow from Haiti. They all deal with Haiti in the same way. While some are forced due to not being able to afford Haiti’s problems (Dom Rep, Cuba, Jamaica, etc), for others it’s more of a choice (USA, etc).

Taking Haiti’s problems would decline the Dominican budget on a per capita basis by 50%; causing a very serious degradation of Dominican infrastructure, institutions and quality of life that would threaten the social and political stability of the whole island. Plus Haiti’s gain will be negligible.

On the other hand, the USA would only see a 3% decline with practically no impact in the USA, but dramatic changes all over Haiti. This would be the best deal on the list, since it has practically no effect in the rich country but a very profound effect in the impoverished one.

France would see a 15% decline, which would most likely have a moderately negative effect in France, but a considerably positive effect all over Haiti. In fact, Haiti’s problems becoming a responsibility of France would grant the Caribbean nation the greatest benefits that it could have with any of the countries listed.

This is before deducting the fixed expenses and obligations for each government.

These are fascinating figures, and they are probably accurate. But I'm always leery when reading such figures, because there are so many variables to consider.

At any rate, I see the reality of Haitians coming to the DR every day.

Many people have posted on this forum about the possibility of the Haiti and the DR being formed into one naiton, and nearly everyone agrees that it is not a good idea. But from what I am seeing, the movement of so many persons from west to east is a slow process with the same end result. At some point, Dominicans will have to decide if they wish for this process to continue - if it isn't too late.

In the United States, if you look closely at the immigration issue, for many years, immigration laws were enforced with a wink and a nod. Illegally present aliens were hired without any reprecussions to employers or employees, and the country became dependant on cheap labor. Only when the workers began protesting for their rights did the anti-immigrant wave begin.

The main reason that illegal immigration to the United States has declined over the past four years is because of tighter enforcement along the border (partially in response to the drug wars in Mexico) and the poor economic outlook for American workers. The Arizona law has yet to be enforced.

05-19-2011, 09:50 PM	#18
puzobok Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	Take a look at the following government budgets on a per person basis (in US dollars): Dom Rep: $700 Jamaica: $1,379 Puerto Rico: $1,750 Cuba: $4,273 USA: $6,386 Canada: $17,824 France: 18,462 Look what happens under the when Haiti’s problems are added to each country independently: Dom Rep: $355 (50% decline) Jamaica: $315 (77%) Puerto Rico: $511 (71%) Cuba: $2,238 (48%) United States: $6,192 (3%) Canada: $13,773 (23%) France: $16,000 (13%) The numbers speak for themselves, and all of those countries except Puerto Rico and Canada, are threatened with the illegal immigration flow from Haiti. They all deal with Haiti in the same way. While some are forced due to not being able to afford Haiti’s problems (Dom Rep, Cuba, Jamaica, etc), for others it’s more of a choice (USA, etc). Taking Haiti’s problems would decline the Dominican budget on a per capita basis by 50%; causing a very serious degradation of Dominican infrastructure, institutions and quality of life that would threaten the social and political stability of the whole island. Plus Haiti’s gain will be negligible. On the other hand, the USA would only see a 3% decline with practically no impact in the USA, but dramatic changes all over Haiti. This would be the best deal on the list, since it has practically no effect in the rich country but a very profound effect in the impoverished one. France would see a 15% decline, which would most likely have a moderately negative effect in France, but a considerably positive effect all over Haiti. In fact, Haiti’s problems becoming a responsibility of France would grant the Caribbean nation the greatest benefits that it could have with any of the countries listed. This is before deducting the fixed expenses and obligations for each government. These are fascinating figures, and they are probably accurate. But I'm always leery when reading such figures, because there are so many variables to consider. At any rate, I see the reality of Haitians coming to the DR every day. Many people have posted on this forum about the possibility of the Haiti and the DR being formed into one naiton, and nearly everyone agrees that it is not a good idea. But from what I am seeing, the movement of so many persons from west to east is a slow process with the same end result. At some point, Dominicans will have to decide if they wish for this process to continue - if it isn't too late. In the United States, if you look closely at the immigration issue, for many years, immigration laws were enforced with a wink and a nod. Illegally present aliens were hired without any reprecussions to employers or employees, and the country became dependant on cheap labor. Only when the workers began protesting for their rights did the anti-immigrant wave begin. The main reason that illegal immigration to the United States has declined over the past four years is because of tighter enforcement along the border (partially in response to the drug wars in Mexico) and the poor economic outlook for American workers. The Arizona law has yet to be enforced.
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