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Old 04-25-2009, 02:18 PM   #30
AntonayPina

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@bwen

"victims of war have chosen to be slaughtered? yes, if they didnt then no trauma would come out of it. they would just see it as a delay to next incarnation and move on." how can one speak of a choice if there is no consciousness in it? it seems like ego has no counciousness, and self knows it all, so self can interact in a way it would not respect the free will of the ego. as i said predestination is a possibility, but not a solid absolute law.(it is used when it has function) so to me it's not right to say that al 6miljon jews choosed to go to the concentration camps. some of them may choosed it as an experence to learn from, but others of them where bruttaly disturbed in their program of learning of self.

if i see im going to do something which i may damage others free will with, i will not do that action. like ra says "free will does not allow," rape, murder, molestation, etc. (not that i want to do these things)

@yossarian

"picture this: you are god. only you exist. you are omnipotent and infinite. you decide you want to write a stageplay just like on broadway. you divide yourself and invent the concept called free will, saying each piece of yourself has free reach to experience whatever each piece wants." dividing was the risk of the experiment, the one knew that some of this parts would reject him. so he placed them in systems, and when the system becomes aware, counscious of it's self, the system takes all that parts with it in this awarenes, so by a human becoming one with the one again, al parts of the human system are participating the process. (woman can use "her" refering to the one)

"god laughed long and hard when he came up with that trick. and then he divided himself up into smaller parts and sent those smaller parts into the little house of mirrors to see what would happen. he really is just a kid playing with anthills isn't he?" i do not think the one is laughing now with us, the reason were placed here is to see trough duality, i believe the one wants us to do it ourselves. only by doing this ourselves, free choice, we can become one again.

@aqcheryl

"at the same time though, we are protected to an extent of our free will and its quite possible that a higher d negative could come and try and influence us. so we may not have chosen that piano to fall on our head, but in agreement with you, due to an outside negative force we find ourselves walking underneath it just as it hits. it wasnt pre-planned, our free will can change those plans (so really plans are guided) but you know... and yet...we still made the choice to walk down that street that day. to run 5 minutes late." you are correct that this is a more complex system which we need to look at in colors, not in black and white. in theory the variaties of human life are infinit. so on the path we walk everything is involved from negativ 4d entities till higher self till the taste of eating things. but why should we not know how to handle things, to get the balance, also with 4d negative as with the preparation of food. everything is a matter of knowing how to do it. so in this case knowledge is the key to know how you can defend yourself against evil spirits, to know how to bring the ego back in balance with the self, to know how to deal with something as free choice/will.

general; some questions are not serving evolution. in this case i choose for myself to ask myself what would you have done instead of cristicising the choices others make. what would you do with your free will. imagine situations, and try to feel your inner emotions. try to visualise yourself raping or killing somebody, try to visualise yourself then as the victim. try to feel you inner emotions in the agressor role and those in the victim role. it's not easy, look at the good actors from the movies who really suffer damage from playing their roles, so dont force yourself to see more as you can handle, even it is in your imagination. my conclusion is, ok thank you boss(the one) it's nice you gave me and all the others free will, but the others are another me, so i choose not to use my free will when it can damage the free will of others.(other= other me, in fact it's just logical, in fact im saying i will not use my free will to damage my"self" with, the other me's are also part of that bigger self) this is the wisdom of the one. the one does not interfear with us when it can damage our free will.

blessings, ld.
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