[TagBahthuff]

why is it important to know about those levels of negative behaviors in the first place? correct me if i'm wrong, please, but it seems like you're saying these negative things should be allowed for our learning experience.

as far as i understand it, it is because of the law of one that certain distortions had to be allowed. it is not because you or i don't see "the use" of it, that there is no use. instead of judging this, i choose to try and accept the fact that these distortions exist and that they came into existence for a good reason. my main goal here personally is to still try to see the other as my own self, even if they are doing things, i choose not to do. and even if i personally do not condone these actions and do not approve of them, it is not up to me to judge them.

in the loo perspective, meaning in the mentality that everyone here is another version of you("one"), saying that we need these experiences is like saying, "hmm, i think i'll beat myself up today." why? why do we even need that experience? what will come of it all in the end, if we're only going to meld back into the creator and forget everything anyway?

aren't we here as extensions of our one creator to which we all want to return ? so aren't we here to "experience everything" ? who are we to judge what our one creator is to experience or isn't to experience ? who are we to say that those things are not of use because we as "little ego's" are just going to forget anyway ? as i see it, it's not about us as seperated beings, but about us as a whole. and i personally cannot think in this "whole" yet, since i am not at that level. all i can do is integrate what i see around me in where i am now and in who i am now. and not judge, for i obviously do not have the "level of density" and thus the light/love/wisdom necesery to do so.

on top of that, a lot of us, just live this way. we live in a certain level of "i'll beat myself up", by for example feeling inferior on any level or not accepting who we are on some level is also "beating ourselves" up, just a different expression of it. we call these "beating ourselves up" things, "blockages" in the esotherism and we work to understand these as to further accept ourselves and learn. i will not judge that this is not useful, nor will i judge that more extreme forms of beating ourselves up are not useful.

i understand that a little rain makes us appreciate a sunny day, but i see no possible good vibes coming from the knowledge of mass slaughters and abuses of innocents.

i understand that you see no possible good vibes coming from the knowledge of mass slaugthers and abuse, as i explained above, it is logical for us not to see a use since we personify ourselves with the "positive orientation" and obviously find these things "greatly undesired". but it's not because we find them greatly undersired, that they offer no level of learning to other parts of our oneness. and that it holds no level of learning for the level of the one creator to which we all strive to rejoin. i still do not condone these actions of negatively oriented seekers, but they exist, they are here, all i can do is accept them and try to learn certain things from them: as in "not wanting to go down the same road", not judging, really accepting the other as a part of me even if this part hurts ouselves, etc