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**Longwow** · 03-10-2007, 10:34 PM

billybobbusterballs, i have grown to look forward to your somewhat irreverent posts!

i am soon to meet my girlfriend's (of three years) champion christian fundamentalist father who is reputed to be a fearful,towering presense in his wide, wide circles, and who may be making it his mission to save his only daughter from her boyfriend's heathenistic, irreverent influence! (he, apparently knowing me by reputation only, this alone puts me at a disadvantage!)

your presence would be that which i can only say would be that most desirable, having sussed up your journey so far to the far shores of guilt-free spiritual living!

as the canadian dollar is now measuring $1.01 to yours, i'll contribute my entire commision for last week (twenty-one dollars and fifty-one cents...canadian!) to your airfare, if you can get here by tomorrow nite to lend me moral support, and i'll buy the root beer.

if you somehow can't make it, keep me in your thoughts (and feelings) anyways.

shivering in my timbers, mark

hi, mark

thanks ol' buddy. hey, i don't mind being somewhat irreverent as long as i'm not irrelevant!

about your coming meeting with this four-square fundemantalist ... run, do not walk to the nearest escape hatch! i'm scared to be with you even in thought! (is this girl worth dying for?)

i'm afraid it is a situation of, "abandon hope all ye who enter here".

but maybe i'm imagining the worst case scenario.

no. it will be horrible.

what can you say? being the pro-active father of his precious daughter he will certainly probe your religious convictions.

perhaps your best bet is to beat him to the draw and ask him about his religious convictions --after all, he is the expert -- keep reminding yourself, and tell him, that you are interested and open to learning the truth. all you know is that somehow jesus died to save all or many or some or only the elect. he will have a strong doctrinal opinion on one or the other of the above options. that will give you some clues on treading through the mine field.

this formidable pillar of the faith might just come right out and demand to know if you believe jesus is god. it could be all over right then and there if you fail to hem and haw with just the right reverance. tell him that this is a very profound question and that the idea of the trinity confuses you (hell, it took the church several hundred years to pound out and fashion the doctrine of the trinity -- you have good reason to be confused!) he might soften a bit and explain how a single egg has a shell, the white, along with the yellow yolk stuff...or perhaps he might use the idea of water, steam and ice, etc. nod your head and tell him, "yes, that makes sense."

keep in mind that the accounts of jesus are rather schizoid... there is the galalian jesus, who loved everyone --especially children, and then on the other hand we find the rather scary, jerusalem jesus -- who is coming back as the lion of judah to wrack vengeance on disbelievers and bad-doers. your girl friend's father will lean to one view or the other... in your special interaction pray that he favors the gentle jesus! (if he is carrying a bible like a six-gun on his hip, all bets are off!)

in case you get tempted to be carried away and attempt to discuss your point of view, keep in mind these warning points:

according to the holy scriptures prophets must be 100% accurate...if not then they are revealed as false prophets and deserve immediate death. in the book of acts a city obeyed admonitions against occult practices by having a "book" burning of forbidden material amounting to some 50 talents or so of silver. (50 talents? pieces? my memory ain't all that good) so, for goodness sake don't mention cayce, david, etc., or especially your vast, personal, unburned library you would invite him to read.

well, mark, maybe this formidable personage will recognize your spiritual goodness shining forth and will be tempered! i hope she is worth it! and, hey! does she have a hidden agenda to come out of the faith closet and "save" you once the two of you are safely hitched?? keep in mind that she may still be "daddy's girl"

best, billybob, my prayers go wit ya.

03-10-2007, 10:34 PM	#6
Longwow Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 389 Senior Member	billybobbusterballs, i have grown to look forward to your somewhat irreverent posts! i am soon to meet my girlfriend's (of three years) champion christian fundamentalist father who is reputed to be a fearful,towering presense in his wide, wide circles, and who may be making it his mission to save his only daughter from her boyfriend's heathenistic, irreverent influence! (he, apparently knowing me by reputation only, this alone puts me at a disadvantage!) your presence would be that which i can only say would be that most desirable, having sussed up your journey so far to the far shores of guilt-free spiritual living! as the canadian dollar is now measuring $1.01 to yours, i'll contribute my entire commision for last week (twenty-one dollars and fifty-one cents...canadian!) to your airfare, if you can get here by tomorrow nite to lend me moral support, and i'll buy the root beer. if you somehow can't make it, keep me in your thoughts (and feelings) anyways. shivering in my timbers, mark hi, mark thanks ol' buddy. hey, i don't mind being somewhat irreverent as long as i'm not irrelevant! about your coming meeting with this four-square fundemantalist ... run, do not walk to the nearest escape hatch! i'm scared to be with you even in thought! (is this girl worth dying for?) i'm afraid it is a situation of, "abandon hope all ye who enter here". but maybe i'm imagining the worst case scenario. no. it will be horrible. what can you say? being the pro-active father of his precious daughter he will certainly probe your religious convictions. perhaps your best bet is to beat him to the draw and ask him about his religious convictions --after all, he is the expert -- keep reminding yourself, and tell him, that you are interested and open to learning the truth. all you know is that somehow jesus died to save all or many or some or only the elect. he will have a strong doctrinal opinion on one or the other of the above options. that will give you some clues on treading through the mine field. this formidable pillar of the faith might just come right out and demand to know if you believe jesus is god. it could be all over right then and there if you fail to hem and haw with just the right reverance. tell him that this is a very profound question and that the idea of the trinity confuses you (hell, it took the church several hundred years to pound out and fashion the doctrine of the trinity -- you have good reason to be confused!) he might soften a bit and explain how a single egg has a shell, the white, along with the yellow yolk stuff...or perhaps he might use the idea of water, steam and ice, etc. nod your head and tell him, "yes, that makes sense." keep in mind that the accounts of jesus are rather schizoid... there is the galalian jesus, who loved everyone --especially children, and then on the other hand we find the rather scary, jerusalem jesus -- who is coming back as the lion of judah to wrack vengeance on disbelievers and bad-doers. your girl friend's father will lean to one view or the other... in your special interaction pray that he favors the gentle jesus! (if he is carrying a bible like a six-gun on his hip, all bets are off!) in case you get tempted to be carried away and attempt to discuss your point of view, keep in mind these warning points: according to the holy scriptures prophets must be 100% accurate...if not then they are revealed as false prophets and deserve immediate death. in the book of acts a city obeyed admonitions against occult practices by having a "book" burning of forbidden material amounting to some 50 talents or so of silver. (50 talents? pieces? my memory ain't all that good) so, for goodness sake don't mention cayce, david, etc., or especially your vast, personal, unburned library you would invite him to read. well, mark, maybe this formidable personage will recognize your spiritual goodness shining forth and will be tempered! i hope she is worth it! and, hey! does she have a hidden agenda to come out of the faith closet and "save" you once the two of you are safely hitched?? keep in mind that she may still be "daddy's girl" best, billybob, my prayers go wit ya.
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