you know what i realize. alot of it is about 'false posturing'. people come into the spiritual movement thing, they are taught about dense foods and higher spiritual beings and how they lived and they start to try and reprogram their way of life not based on their feeling and experience but wanting to act like those people. in my opinion if you can't get deep in your meditation simply because you ate a burger then baby you ain't got it. you feel me? i go thru periods of time where my body and my spirit truly have no desire or taste for meats. i go with it. i juice more. eat lighter and so on. perhaps it is a cleansing...i don't know i just listen and trust. then i'll feel like some fish or chicken whatever and i go with that. i don't notice any higher spiritual realms when i don't eat meat as when i do. it's not like some god or universal spirit is now diggin me more cause i gave up the meat...that is just plain silly. i say this not to insult anyone. nor to tout the greatness of eating meat. what i am saying is in truth...it really isn't the point. and those that think spirituality is all about meat or no meat are lost. they are grasping at straws trying to justify their lack of awareness. be truthful with yourselves. grow up spiritually! own your power. go thru what you gotta go thru. be real. do the work..walk your path and see what you see. and if you give up meat...cool. but if you do and you turn around and try and act like doing so is more spiritual and so on...then back to the cushion you go entity cause ya lost it: ) peace,