[Immusaatmonna]

foosnik,

i second this question because my heart wants to be vegetarian/vegan but i have such a high energy job that i feel like i need the dense proteins from animals to keep up. i would love to hear the answer to this question.

is it possible to sustain a high level of energy on veggies alone? and if so then please tell me exactly what?

i love animals tremendously. i can merge souls with them when i look in their eyes, and feel their consciousness. insects delight me.

i've eaten vegetarian three times in my life, about a year each. the last time, i decided to try vegan. at first, i felt quite well, as i suppose it is cleansing. at some point, i got hold of a way to buy raw milk. and i started reading weston price. i remember the day i ate some farm fresh eggs from happy and free hens, and then drank my raw milk. i lay down for a nap with a feeling almost indescribable - deep bodily peace.

i won't say i felt bad as a vegetarian, although i always had gas. but i think you have to eat improperly a long time before you'll feel it.

for the most part, i think people really cannot achieve top health as vegetarians, but as has been pointed out, the biggest problem is all the nonfood, the sugar, the corn syrup, the aspartame etc, etc.,

it's not so much the proteins, as the fats we need, and the denser nutrients.

my son is a new age, cutting edge, highly spiritual, topanga living guy and he until recently cut trees for a living. being a tree climber is quite dangerous, and probably the most physically demanding occupation there is. the only thing which compares in effort is alaskan deep sea fishing. now, he has tried vegetarian and vegan type eating, not so much as a cut and dried philosophy but just trying to be healthy. you should see the salads he made, and made his own dressing. pomegranate seeds, flax oil, hemp oil, avocadoes. but he was losing weight, and even losing muscle mass. he ate lots and lots of wild salmon, and sushi. watching him take down a tree - you could sell tickets. he could do 30 chinups, he could rapel his own body weight up and down inside a big tree for 5 hours. yet he weighed more in college when he was running and played on the rugby team (he's a skinny guy i don't know why he played rugby). so he couldn't maintain without eating meat.

my daughter and her friend went veggie at age 12 or so for 5-6 years and both of them developed serious health problems. but again, they didn't eat right and i kick myself for letting her do it.

i believe the healthiest people in the world are in iceland. they eat a lot of fish and meat. lots of animal fat.

i do find it a bit sad, but it doesn't look like humans are meant to be vegetarian. i have assumed that in 4d we will indeed live on much lighter food, perhaps no more than fruit.

if a person wants to be vegetarian, i suggest finding a source, if possible, of raw milk, raw cheese, and eating raw eggs from healthy farm raised hens. i never buy butter unless it comes from grass fed cows. then, eat high calorie and high fat foods like avocados, and supplement with flax and hemp and coconut oils. and, if you don't mind abusing fish, take fish oil and cod liver oil. you could eat very little meat isfyou ate the above.

oh, you don't eat the raw eggs just like that. no. you make a smoothie with a banana and some berries (i buy frozen most of the time). or you can make a banana shake with raw milk, ripe banana, raw egg and a dash of vanilla. i've given that to lots of people, everyone loves it.

it's important to eat food raw when you can, and you need more than just fruit and salad raw.

it is now possible to buy meat that is not only hormone and antibiotic free, but grass fed and pastured as well.