[rouletteroulette]

folks,


firstly, dw's and my comments on this thread are within the "{...}"--in order to avoid confusion with the original quoted material that use a lot of square brackets "[...]"; and our comments are double-spaced apart from other material, but comments that don't have any other comments within them are left only with a single-space between paragraphs. comments that are within comments are continued with the three periods ("..."). i hope that this material is readable for most.


i've had a lot of fun reading up on the dan burisch stuff. it's the best "insider" stuff that's available on the public internet, as far as i've seen. dan burisch very bravely exposed this information over a short period of time, after which he was killed for his efforts to expose important information...


{dw: dan is very much alive. this was a false alarm.}


...i really appreciate dan's efforts to help us humans out. hundreds of thousands of people have read this material, but few of them have the rare opps to comare the burisch material to the material in the divine cosmos site, which has the least-distorted spiritual/scientific material of anywhere on the planet. the value of the burisch material is to indicate what the insiders in the mltry complex are thinking, compared to our thinking within the divine cosmos thought-form thinking...


{dw: it is one perspective on what they are thinking, and has useful information in it.}


...there are a lot of distortions/mis-perceptions within the burisch material, but, thanks to the information on the divine cosmos site, i've been able to wade through the distortions and pick out some gems of information, some of which i share with you in the pasted quotes interspersed below that are along with my own commentaries woven in. it's facinating material...


{dw: i have done the same... and much more. it's a complex subject and i'll be releasing my conclusions all at one time.}


...there are little bits and pieces of information in the burisch material that dovetails with the divine comos stuff, but a lot of the burisch material is quite distorted (even the pasted material), compared to the divine cosmos stuff, so, folks, just be aware of how fortunate we are to have the highly-accurate information in the divine cosmos site; what a gem of a gift it is. to all who have contributed to that site, dw and all, i thank you all from the bottom of my bottomless heart.


now on to the burisch material, along with my comments ("db" is dan burisch; "dh" is dan hamilton, the interviewer). the information gets better and better as this post goes along.


{dw: this first excerpt about 'hodge-podges' is so deplorably difficult to understand that i wouldn't have arranged the data this way... but it is one of the oldest swatches of 2012 testimony that he gave. much better to watch his recent videos on the project camelot website. i cleaned it up a bit so you have a fighting chance to make sense out of it.}


http://www.stealthskater.com/documents/burisch_10.doc


[quote]
dh: you're talking about the doctrine of convergent timeline paradox?

db: ... but from what i understand, from what i've read, and from the conversations to which i've been privy, we are in fact living in a chimera reality -- which hodge-podges together the reality time-line that we would normally associate with moving from 'a' to 'b', cause to effect. the nexus [of these influences is] the passage of clock-time [as we know it.]

there is a hodge-podging together, superimposed onto [the passage of clock time] in our reality, of errors that we made in our future. [what i have been told is that we are] attempt[ing] to go back into our past to correct the problems of our future.

those results have [caused a blending together] rather than [the] splitting [of] time-stream[s] as maybe such people as michio kaku would posit.

now i'm no theoretical physicist. i'm just a lowly biologist that looks at patterns. but it hodge-podges together -- in a real sense to us -- those things which happened, and are to happen, in the future with our present timeline -- due to an interruption of the time-stream.

instead of splitting into two time-streams, what happened is as soon as we mucked around with something, we overlaid a second time-stream into the present reality.

and the problem with that is -- as i understand -- we did it more than once, so what we have is a snowball effect. a time-stream upon time-stream upon time-stream [loops his hand continuously in the air].

bh: and the critical period of time is coming up within about ten years?

db: ... but yeah, around 2012. we're talking about the famous dec 21, 2012, the mayan issues. the catastrophe is alleged to have and to occur around … yeah, that date ...
[unquote]


{dw: based on law of one discussions about a 'three-way split' and many other components, it becomes clear that what we are seeing here is a reality created by those who went through 2012 and graduated negatively.

from their perspective they saw a cataclysm. they experience dna degeneration, in keeping with the law of one statements about how your soul starts dissolving if you stay on the negative path for too long.

they have misunderstood the cause of this degradation as being their low population numbers after the alleged cataclysm -- which was really a thought-form created by their beliefs of what would happen, and not consistent with what others -- such as 4d positive graduates -- will experience.}


[quote]
bh: but we have a split, so to speak, in the human …??

db: [nodding] following the catastrophe, there is a split between those individuals that take a more spiritual path and will move forward to places such as the moon and mars and then onward from there to orion,...


{dw: those on the negative path believe it to be a 'more spiritual path'...}


...and those folks who take a more rudimentary path because it's the alleged 'spiritual' nature of humankind -- from their philosophy at that time -- which led us to not deal with the pressing problems of the day because we were too busy fighting our petty religious battles.

[they] then go off into a more 'logical', 'mathematical', 'numerological' philosophy...


{dw: notice how derogatory the 'insider' opinion (not necessarily dan's personal opinion) is about the positive path.}


...those folks who then progress slower because of the lack of ambition -- spiritual ambition -- then gradually move off to the reticulum area [and] then become the j-rods.
[unquote]


{dw: this is clearly distorted, since it is being seen from the negative side of things.}


{mozart: it seems that this dctp (doctrine of convergent timeline paradox) stuff is sort of like the bifurcation points that smelyakov talked about...


{dw: true... somewhat.}


...it is clear to me that the insiders in the nasa/mltry complexes are really aware of the coming 2012 event (as dw and others have pointed out), but, from their point of view, it's a "catastrophe".


{dw: this is correct.}


...it might as well be for them (the elites), since it destroys their toys and levels out the 3-d time/space playing field that the majority of the shifted 3-d humans (going from 3-d space/time to 3-d time/space) in such a way that anyone within the re-formed matrix field of the 3-d time/space reality can conjure up anything one may wish, if one were to be aware of such abilities...


{dw: they don't even think that far. just a massive population reduction, which they've concluded will be beneficial.}


...clearly the mltry/insiders have perceptual errors of the 2012 event, but it is interesting to me that they are aware of: (a) the 2012 event itself and (b) the splitting of worlds after the event.}


{dw: good point.}


[quote]
...so i wasn't particularly interested … and in fact before i experienced the 'gentleman' in the clean sphere, i frankly thought, honestly thought, that people who believed in aliens were tin-foil heads. [here dan shrugs his shoulders and shakes his head, then chuckles wryly saying “egg on my face!”] ...

d. burisch: i've come to know a group … i shouldn't say i've come to know the group. i've come to know of the group called the committee of the majority. this committee is built of thirty-three men. they are masonic-based and they are people who set in the highest positions of privilege and power within the u. s. government and other governments.

bh: how does this group, majestic 12, fit into that?

d. burisch: majestic 12 is a group of scientists and scientific advisors who work for the committee of the majority.
[unquote]


{mozart: in other interviews, burisch makes it clear that the committe of the majority (cotm) has broken up into at least two factions, one rogue one that is the dark, nasty part of the illoonynaughties and the other one that wants more peaceful outcomes...


{dw: this is correct.}


...this supports a number of sources that have indicated that the highest levels of the illoonynaughties have broken up into two competing factions. i find it interesting that their favorite tactic that they use against the people of the world--the tactic of "divide and conquer"--has been used against them in a karmic way. yea!

so, apparently, the rogue ones are trying their best to foment wars in the worst way (i.e. in iraq and the attempting to start a war with iran, etc), while the more peaceful part of the cotm are working to keep the world from exploding into a major wwiii conflagration, amongst other things that they are apparently doing, like keeping the internet going and the world economies functioning without outright collapse in their efforts to counterbalance the efforts of the rogue splinter cotm group. good 'ol karma helping us people out there.}


{dw: i wouldn't be too quick to rush in and shower the opposing side with good tidings. suffice it to say that we have two groups, each with negative elements in their own ways, that will cancel each other out. people within these groups are not necessarily up to no good -- in many cases they are good people who got stuck in a bad situation.}


[quote]
bh: is there any particular significance … you were mentioning a cycle of 9 -- yours that these aliens seem to be adhering to -- and the next period coming up would be of 2003?

db: the only thing i know for sure is that their relationship with us is treaty-based.

bh: you mean 'as'?

db: … as in the alleged orion visitors and confirmed reticulan visitors. it's a treaty-based relationship. that treaty and negotiations for further cooperative work is due for re-upping; and that re-upping is due in 2003.

now, i've been kind of hurried-up in the project in which i am currently assigned. i've been told to have a working model of this theory presentable by march 15 next year (2003).

why are they letting this happen? i don't know. i have not been able to move right-or-left without getting watched, that i know.
[unquote]


{mozart: this is an interesting bit of information that dovetails with smelyakov's bifurcation points, one of which was 2003. and this "cycle of 9" is an apparent series of treaties between human govt's and ets.

i back-dated the cycles and it apparently started in 1949, two years after the famous roswell event, which really did happen and which was confirmed by many sources, including the ra material. there's been six "cycle of 9" treaties with an apparent 7th one that may be in effect now.}


{dw: i can check and see if you are correct on this point.}


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{mozart: on to the next link}


http://www.stealthskater.com/documents/burisch_11.doc


[quote]
dan burisch: they have been planting the seeds of discontent with their places in the world in order to obtain their assistance with present time research into the neurological deficit. that is how they do the communications. the mibs are aliens. well, ets, not really aliens.

in return, the governments have been obtaining technology from them. stargate technology. stargate technology to move across the universe or access other dimensions? we -- meaning the u.s. -- must root out and find the stargates that are man-made. yes, to access vast distances. and with that technology goes time access as well.

in 2012, the sun will shower the earth with waves of energy, bound to the einstein-rosen bridges that are clumped together at the galactic equator.

dondep: is one of the stargates in iraq?

dan burisch: two. we have one of them. all of the natural stargates will turn 'on'...and as they say in hollywood, "something wonderful will happen". what that means, i don't really know. but, if we do not capture and disable the man-made ones, the record books read that we will undergo a tragedy -- 4 billion at minimum dead.
[unquote]


{mozart: there's several interesting things here. the mibs are apparently aliens, not humans; there's a lot of detailed observations in the interviews that i have not pasted here...


{dw: some of his mib stories are extremely bizarre.}


...the stargate stuff is facinating. no wonder we have the movie "stargate", as well as the tv series "stargate sg-1" going on with the subtle hints of truth bleeding through, within a lot of distortions, though...


{dw: there are distortions. only biological material goes through. also there appears to be different types of stargates. there is one per planet put down by the "ancients," which gates world to world, and only sends through biological material. anything else doesn't make it.

then there are other 'manmade' gates that may be able to ship biological material as well as physical matter. i'm not sure and need to clarify this.}


...the reference to stargates being in iraq is facinating; maybe that's the key reason why this stupid war is happening over there, on top of a number of other reasons (e.g. geostrategic imperatives, maintenance of dollar/oil supremacy and the oil)?...


{dw: so i've heard. you can hear more about this in the burisch video at project camelot.}


...apparently burisch has been worried that the human-made stargates could mess up the natural stargates that are supposed to turn on in the 2012 event, but i am presuming that our benevolent guardians (the confederation, et. al.) would be able to use their superior et tech to disable any man-made ones that may have the ability to disrupt the natural ones, right?...


{dw: the whole story, in my opinion, is a result of the confusion of those who graduated 4d negative. they believe themselves to be the proper descendants of humanity, the "more spiritual" portion. they believe that their dna is degrading not because they are on the negative path, but because of the small number of initial survivors.

they furthermore believe that if they can come back, get dna, renew their genome with it and try to stop what they believe is a pole shift, then they can stop their genetic problems. a variety of films have this sub-plot in it, most recently "the last mimzy".

by the way, all the manmade stargates have been deactivated since last year, and the last glance towards the future that was taken before they were all brought offline suggested that, in their timeline, the vast likelihood is now that there was not a catastrophe.}


...i wonder if the natural ones are aligned with the becker-hagens planetary grid? it has to be, as stargates would be presumably located at key energenic/geometric convergence points...


{dw: you are correct, sir.}


...and the einstein-rosen bridges seem to be the inner part of the spherical torus of the torsion fields that are so well-explained in the divine cosmos site, yes?...


{dw: correct again.}


{dw: as for the next quote you have to keep in mind that burisch's primary function within the maji group was to try to re-create the original seed of all life on earth, which was code-named the lotus.

this was done through taking a certain primordial rock outcropping, the vishnu schist, and bathing it in a solution with basic amino acids and a bit of electrical current. in this way, the natural aetheric fields are stimulated to create life. this is a more correct view of how life is actually formed -- not through random darwinian mutation.

the ganesh particles seem to be direct precipitations from the 'aether' that provide a supportive and healing effect on other cells.}


[quote]
dan burisch: so the dctp says. that is why i am fighting so hard. but there exists people that would try to turn this into a technology that would be akin to grabbing the fruit of the tree of life. i can't help them, whatsoever.

the lotus is a natural thing. it isn't something that some frankenstein's laboratory cooked up. it exists all around us. we are part of it, and it, us. every mote of dust emits the particles, naturally. it is the driving force, through the creator (blessed be he) that moves life on earth forward to his will.

the ganesh particles are those modes of transportation whereby the actions of the divine one hands through and over the daat, a piece of the supernal. as we are god, he is us. the tree of life is what we are. not just humans, but the entire experience of life.

the ganesh particles have been there all along. they hide themselves under bent waves of electromagnetism, and flicker out of existence, back across the daat with little effort.

the crude laboratory protocols of today limit -- by their very nature -- the ability to find them. the sifting, sorting, etc. i found them by a process of elimination. i mean, i was kind of told they were there ...

it bridges the gap between the material and the spiritual, if you will.
[quote]


{mozart: the comments on the lotus and the ganesh particles are very fascinating. there's a lot more descriptions of these two things in burisch's commentaries. and the "grabbing the fruit of the tree of life" is another key commentary that has a great deal of what is going on in today's technologies, as well as the atlantean technologies with their own attempts to grab this fruit with the disastrous consequences that are now history.}


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http://www.stealthskater.com/documents/burisch_15.doc


{mozart: "j" is burisch. he makes some facinating comments in the below-pasted quote. more comments later.}


[quote]
"j": as i have told the others (marc and don), i have only asked with this research to peer over the east gate of eden, to see the tree. i vigorously fight against any attempts to touch her fruit.

the lotus is not something that can be sold as a technology or -- if possible -- shouldn't be. it has a life of its own, sprung from the eternal. for many years i begged -- as i think many biologists do -- to have the "holy grail of biology" - to see the origin of life.

now i am realizing that i may have entered upon her territory and must proceed very carefully and with the utmost respect. such respect is lacking in the greater part of the scientific community as much of that community has lost her way from the path of god.

i too, stood as an arrogant biologist thinking that i could grasp what i will and do with it as i pleased. then, i met the person from far away (in distance as time).

when i first met him, i could look down at my hands and at my face and see youth. now, i see time. just like the time he crossed to come here, and allow himself to be experimented upon by the arrogant ones (myself included at that time). i understand.

my god! in our own arrogance, we have constructed portals we staunchly call stargates as if we can control the nature of time itself. they must all be destroyed or we shall undo ourselves and become what i have seen. this is something that profoundly changes a person, to know the error, before it is made, and to have it out of grasp. all i can do is hand this to god and pray for our survival...


{dw: the manmade portals have all been shut down.}


...i was asked by "dondep" if i had seen a hologram of the future. i answered that i had. but that is only a possible scenario. we must return to the worship of the creator, and an appreciation of the things he has given (including the natural stargates) or we are dooming ourselves.

right now, under the facade of the "war on terror", thousands are risking their lives. and they know not why. is there wmd in various countries? yes. "are" there, i should have said.

but the big push was precipitated by a threat that followed the attack on my country. that is why we went after iraq. plus the oil, i am sure didn't look too bad given our economy.

we were -- and are looking for -- one kind of wmd: the stargates. why did the sumerian cylinder seals disappear from the museums? they tell of a technology (see william henry's work) that will eventually destroy us by our own arrogance.

so, we find ourselves in the greatest catch-22 between the literal devil and the figurative deep blue sea.
[unquote]


{mozart: i will post more commentaries that have even more facinating stuff about greater explanations of the lotus and the ganesh particles, which appear to me to be sacred geometric-based energy structures that are explained differently and in greater/better detail in the divine cosmos site.}


{dw: true. and my writings helped the lotus protocols evolve, i now know.}


signing off for now,


~mozart