[Thigmaswams]

if david would comment on the topic of sunspots i would be most grateful. i don’t want to waste the chance to ask the original edgar cayce this question and see what might come out of it.

several years ago, i read the book titled “the hidden laws of earth” by juliet brooke ballard which discusses the edgar cayce readings on astrology, sun, moon, earth, color, etc. david, in your blog today, you talked about sunspots. i remember seeing a reference to the edgar cayce reading 5757-1 which tells of man’s effect on the sun – stating that we humans are the cause of the sunspots. the reading is as follows:

"... the sun , the moon, the planets have their marching orders from the divine, and they move in same.
man alone is given that birthright of free will. he alone may defy his god!
how many of you have questioned that in thine own heart, and know that thy disobediance in the earth reflects unto the heavenly hosts and thus influences that activity of god's command! for you -- as souls and sons and daughters of god -- defy the living god!
as the sun is made to shed light and heat upon god's children in the earth, it is then of that composition of which man is made, or that termed the earth; yet, as ye have seen and know, there is solid matter, there is liquid, there is vapor. all are one in their various stages of consciousness or of activity for what? man -- godly man! yet when these become as in defiance to that light which was commanded to march, to show forth the lord's glory, his beauty, his mercy, his hope -- yea, his patience -- do ye wonder then that there become reflected upon even the face of the sun those turmoils and strifes that have been and that are the sin of man?
whence comest this?
all that was made to show to the sons, the souls, that god is mindful of his children.
how do they [sunspots] affect man? how does a cross word affect thee? how does anger, jealousy, hate, animosity, affect thee as a son of god? if thou art the father of same, oft ye cherish same. if thou art the recipient of same from others, thy brethren, how does it affect thee? much as that confusion which is caused upon the earth by that which appears as a sunspot. the disruptions of communications of all natures between men is what? remember the story, the allegory if ye choose to call it such, of the tower of babel."

i have no doubt that we are creators of sunspots. in fact, since i have known about this reading, when i sungaze make it a point to say “may i never be a blemish on your face” when i look into it and i ask to receive guidance for the day. i firmly believe that the sun exchanges (both receives and gives) physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual data to/with us and the other planets in the solar system. i can feel it when my transmission eye (yes one eye is a transmitter) is uploading to the sun and my receiver eye (the other eye) is downloading from the sun (the designation of which eye transmits and which one gives is a whole other topic in and of itself). i’ll let nasa back me up (and your reading as ec) on this one a little with the following article “soho’s latest surprise: gas near the sun heading the wrong way” (http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/topstory/20011120sohogas.html), describing how the sun receives external [data] flows going into it… which nasa is trying to understand.

nonetheless, i am, perplexed by something i recently listened to and how it ties into this particular reading. on april 12, 2007, david perales and richard mogey from the foundation for the study of cycles were recent guests on earth changes tv internet radio show. they were interviewed by mitch battros. i had hoped to provide a working link for your perusal here but found that it was a radio program that required a subscription and thus it is unfortunately not postable. however, in the interview they discussed how they had data going back literally hundreds (if not thousands) of years showing that jupiter and saturn create much of the sunspot cycle and push and pull the sun around the barry center (the true geographical center) of the solar system. they also told how solar winds actually were responsible for blowing up mines in haifong harbor in the vietnam war (that’s how powerful they were). furthermore they discussed the 17.7 year cycle of international battles and the sun where this cycle is due to top between 2008-2012 (so get ready for more escalations in wars around the globe they say), and how the absence of sunspots actually accelerates global catastrophes.

i know that the ec readings are very accurate….no question in my mind….so it seems to me that there must be some sort of additional cycle going on between sunspot creation by us and the various transits of jupiter and saturn with regard to the sun that perales and mogey talk about. i believe that both the original reading and what perales and mogey say are true. so now i am trying to piece together the link between the two and my curiosity is getting the absolute best of me today on this. do you think that perhaps jupiter and saturn modify the original sunspots that we create? do they transform them in some way? or do they create sunspots to counter or merge with the sunspots created by mankind?

next, from http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/cos...ion_solar.html i find the paragraphs:

“evidence for mankind's effect on the sun? the sunspot cycle as we know it today appeared after 1715 and has continued ever since. just prior to 1715, there was a dramatic cessation of the sunspot cycle for the 70-year period from 1645 to 1715. "yet," according to e. parker (scientific american, 9/1975), "the prejudice [is] that the 11-year sunspot cycle with its thousands of spots in each cycle is the norm. during the 70 years of sunspot inactivity, observers had to wait years to see a single sunspot, whereas now there are usually a few spots showing even during the minimum of the sunspot cycle." also according to parker ("the physics of the sun," physics today, june 2000, p. 31).

the c-14 record shows that over the last 70 centuries, the sun has been without normal activity for 10 centuries and hyperactive for 8 centuries. the other 52 centuries were variable but more or less 'normal.' the most recent quiescent period was from 1645 to 1715, ....subsequently called the maunder minimum after its discoverer. the 12th century medieval maximum is the most recent epoch of hyperactivity, and one can only guess how the sun behaved at that time. such periods of abnormal activity are without explanation, as are the variations within the so-called normal centuries."

and what happened immediately before 1645? there were two, 15-year cycles of sunspots, which coincided with the end of the thirty year's war. this war has been termed the most horrible episode in western history prior to the 20th century. "but although it did not officially terminate until the peace of westphalia, in 1648, peace overtures had actually begun some few years earlier, and the worst of the carnage came to an end with the conclusion of the swedish-danish war in 1645 -- the same year, it will be noted, that marked the beginning of the 70-year hiatus in sunspot activity" (h. church, 1976, a.r.e. journal, virginia beach, va, 23451).”
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clearly there is a connection between sunspots cycles (or lack of them) and war. today when i sungazed i did not see any sunspots visible to my naked eye (i’ve seen many in past years) and we have been in a solar minimum for a little while now. yet i note that wars on earth have increased. is it that the sunspots are being internally “digested” by the sun now and their effects are coming to fruition? why does the sun go into sunspot minimum and wars on earth go into maximum? can you comment please, if possible?

thanks david!

charran

all time in measured in the sun --- w. d. gann