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**Kk21pwa9** · 12-04-2009, 05:54 AM

i have read in two different places that when jesus appears to ppl in visions that he appears washing their feet.

this, to me, is obviously a service. as if jesus loves to be a servant.

i would be so happy if we could explore this a bit.

why is it so good for us as human beings to be a servant?

a very wise person once told me, people who stress the importance of you being a "servant", are usually people who want to be served.

the whole "jesus loved to be a servant and loved washing people's feet" comes directly from the bible and people's understanding about what they've been repeatedly taught from the bible.

i did a lot of research about who wrote what in the bible, many people on this forum have, and it's debatable what jesus actually did say and what was said by the apostles who claim to be quoting his words(many years after his death and "resurrection"). you have to take into consideration several factors before believing anything written in a book deemed "holy" by conspirators planning to rule the world.
1)was any of what was written actual history or was the entire life of jesus made up? there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever proving that he even existed. there were literally thousands of men named "jesus" in that time period and, i'm willing to bet, more than a few from "nazareth".
2)if the disciples did get together and try to recollect his actual words and deeds, does it not make sense that they would also fear for their own lives, and try not to stray too far away from the jewish laws already in place?(much as is still done today in most religions)
3)even if those were the words of jesus, does it not make sense to you that his words and actions are and should be considerably different from people who want to survive in the "real world"?
no? "sell all that you have and feed the poor" then.

this world is based on give and take. it's all about balance. if you give more than you're taking from whom you're giving to, you're teaching that person to take more than they give and are therefore part of their greed problem.

12-04-2009, 05:54 AM	#13
Kk21pwa9 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 506 Senior Member	i have read in two different places that when jesus appears to ppl in visions that he appears washing their feet. this, to me, is obviously a service. as if jesus loves to be a servant. i would be so happy if we could explore this a bit. why is it so good for us as human beings to be a servant? a very wise person once told me, people who stress the importance of you being a "servant", are usually people who want to be served. the whole "jesus loved to be a servant and loved washing people's feet" comes directly from the bible and people's understanding about what they've been repeatedly taught from the bible. i did a lot of research about who wrote what in the bible, many people on this forum have, and it's debatable what jesus actually did say and what was said by the apostles who claim to be quoting his words(many years after his death and "resurrection"). you have to take into consideration several factors before believing anything written in a book deemed "holy" by conspirators planning to rule the world. 1)was any of what was written actual history or was the entire life of jesus made up? there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever proving that he even existed. there were literally thousands of men named "jesus" in that time period and, i'm willing to bet, more than a few from "nazareth". 2)if the disciples did get together and try to recollect his actual words and deeds, does it not make sense that they would also fear for their own lives, and try not to stray too far away from the jewish laws already in place?(much as is still done today in most religions) 3)even if those were the words of jesus, does it not make sense to you that his words and actions are and should be considerably different from people who want to survive in the "real world"? no? "sell all that you have and feed the poor" then. this world is based on give and take. it's all about balance. if you give more than you're taking from whom you're giving to, you're teaching that person to take more than they give and are therefore part of their greed problem.
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