[Longwow]

friend eagleye paints a rather startling, dramatic/romantic concept of life in the fourth dimension...in fact, it is a rather extremely utopian view of the fourth dimension.

such may be unrealistic.

i would suggest that harvesting to the fourth is just one meaningful little step up, rather than one gigantic leap-frog jump to the top of a whole staircase worth of enlightenments. a harvesting to the fourth may mean nothing more than barely getting past the doorjam entrance -- certainly not springing open the door to a luxurious penthouse located top the spiritual skyscraper.

now i'm overdoing it

anyway, each of the discrete octaves that ra talks about are sub-divided into an infinity of graduated levels of great complexity. each individual picks the level they are comfortable with at a proper moment.

of course needed lessons will still continue.

it makes sense that we don't become super people right off the bat merely for signing up in basic octave 101.4. the basic point i'm trying to get across is that entering ox4 is not entering some absolute heaven of delight and bliss. (to whit, warfare does take place between negative and positive 4ths.)

a complexity not to be overlooked concerns the role of the inner 3-d-like astral planes ...which is where most of earth's population will shortly gravitate back to... but that is another subject for another time....

love, billybobbutterball...always striving to reach for elusive truths just beyond his feeble grasp, groan.