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**Qeiafib** · 11-25-2008, 01:59 AM

you know, i'm thinking that both views hold merit - true, we enter in on the ground floor, and there are infinite gradations of sub (sub,sub,sub, etc.) densities, yet there is the concept of a giant leap to the next density, just as one platonic shape resists jumping into the next platonic shape throughout the little sub density increases, until the great metamorphosis at the critical threshold.

a dog may be a dog for a thousand lifetimes, steadily increasing in whatever way a dog does, until he reaches that critical threshold of awareness of self - at which time his next incarnation is a huge leap to humanity. that new human may still live with a pack mentality of kill or be killed, not having learned better, yet he is still a man - with fully human faculties of reason, intellect and vocalization skills. (or so i would surmise)

yet, i would not assume that 4d will be a place of no responsibilities, devoid of the necessity of committment, duty and discipline building. we may not have the same worries of being carpet bombed or indiscriminately beaten, terrorized, traumatized or tortured, but we will not be unchallenged, imo. we will have our vocational training, and have the 4d equivalent of hauling a$$ out of bed at 6:00 am every morning, and there will be much effort and challenge in further developing the 'mature' qualities we have begun to develop here.

i suspect that although our souls are in many respects unchanging, where we may notice a big change is in the new mind with which we interface with our 4d world. the mind is a tool, not our identity - although many new faculties of operation may be apparent, we still rest on the accumulated learning the true self/soul has earned thus far - although being out from under the veil of forgetting, we may have the untrammeled benefit of all our experience thus far.

we may find that a vastly new and improved mind awaits us, and it may take an age or two to figure out how to operate it to any where near its full capacity of ability!

mark, wishing for a new lear jet to replace his tired old pontiac.

11-25-2008, 01:59 AM	#23
Qeiafib Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	you know, i'm thinking that both views hold merit - true, we enter in on the ground floor, and there are infinite gradations of sub (sub,sub,sub, etc.) densities, yet there is the concept of a giant leap to the next density, just as one platonic shape resists jumping into the next platonic shape throughout the little sub density increases, until the great metamorphosis at the critical threshold. a dog may be a dog for a thousand lifetimes, steadily increasing in whatever way a dog does, until he reaches that critical threshold of awareness of self - at which time his next incarnation is a huge leap to humanity. that new human may still live with a pack mentality of kill or be killed, not having learned better, yet he is still a man - with fully human faculties of reason, intellect and vocalization skills. (or so i would surmise) yet, i would not assume that 4d will be a place of no responsibilities, devoid of the necessity of committment, duty and discipline building. we may not have the same worries of being carpet bombed or indiscriminately beaten, terrorized, traumatized or tortured, but we will not be unchallenged, imo. we will have our vocational training, and have the 4d equivalent of hauling a$$ out of bed at 6:00 am every morning, and there will be much effort and challenge in further developing the 'mature' qualities we have begun to develop here. i suspect that although our souls are in many respects unchanging, where we may notice a big change is in the new mind with which we interface with our 4d world. the mind is a tool, not our identity - although many new faculties of operation may be apparent, we still rest on the accumulated learning the true self/soul has earned thus far - although being out from under the veil of forgetting, we may have the untrammeled benefit of all our experience thus far. we may find that a vastly new and improved mind awaits us, and it may take an age or two to figure out how to operate it to any where near its full capacity of ability! mark, wishing for a new lear jet to replace his tired old pontiac.
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