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**JonnLeejsp** · 11-18-2008, 03:39 AM

call me crazy, call me enlightened, call me “joe the plumber” if you want to. i don’t mind. but react to this post. i hope that i am wrong. i want to be wrong. i do respect david and the work he is doing.

thank you donald for being so honest. i think most of us here have at one time or another seriously considered what you are saying. if not once, several times and perhaps daily.

i look at david wilcock via divine cosmos mainly as a clearing house. and most importantly, without finding exact quotations, it seems to me that david encourages everyone to think for themselves and not blindly follow what he is saying.

in my opinion, david is a seer who has put a lot of effort into developing his method of seeing beyond what most of us have been brainwashed to think of as "reality". primarily with his dream journals and his many years of working to decipher his dream symbols.

i don't think he would deny that we all have this ability. but its a matter of having the time and the inclination to put it into practice.

i have also extensively researched the nwo and the illuminati reading everything from benjamin fulford to svali and beyond. regarding obama, i have my doubts but i cannot deny the hope that he has created for a better world.

what i don't doubt is that a major shift is coming because the people in this world are too out of balance with the earth and with what i loosely call "natural law". whether the shift happens in 2012 or 2090, there are things that we all can be doing to make this world a better place. which incidentally seems to be the main thrust of the law of one and doing 51% for others. that is what i concentrate on.

so even though fear will play a role in our thoughts (especially if we have children and think of the world they will have to adapt to), i try to relax and allow the changes to take place. and lately, i've been working on lucid dreaming because i believe that is a skill we all need in this time. especially if we believe that life is just a dream...that the one infinite creator is having of herself

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as you say in your own signature, "thoughts change reality. think about it." and i have on my dc page "life is a state of mind". i also strongly believe that life is a state of how we feel too. if only the whole world could all be hopeful at the same time.

11-18-2008, 03:39 AM	#17
JonnLeejsp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	call me crazy, call me enlightened, call me “joe the plumber” if you want to. i don’t mind. but react to this post. i hope that i am wrong. i want to be wrong. i do respect david and the work he is doing. thank you donald for being so honest. i think most of us here have at one time or another seriously considered what you are saying. if not once, several times and perhaps daily. i look at david wilcock via divine cosmos mainly as a clearing house. and most importantly, without finding exact quotations, it seems to me that david encourages everyone to think for themselves and not blindly follow what he is saying. in my opinion, david is a seer who has put a lot of effort into developing his method of seeing beyond what most of us have been brainwashed to think of as "reality". primarily with his dream journals and his many years of working to decipher his dream symbols. i don't think he would deny that we all have this ability. but its a matter of having the time and the inclination to put it into practice. i have also extensively researched the nwo and the illuminati reading everything from benjamin fulford to svali and beyond. regarding obama, i have my doubts but i cannot deny the hope that he has created for a better world. what i don't doubt is that a major shift is coming because the people in this world are too out of balance with the earth and with what i loosely call "natural law". whether the shift happens in 2012 or 2090, there are things that we all can be doing to make this world a better place. which incidentally seems to be the main thrust of the law of one and doing 51% for others. that is what i concentrate on. so even though fear will play a role in our thoughts (especially if we have children and think of the world they will have to adapt to), i try to relax and allow the changes to take place. and lately, i've been working on lucid dreaming because i believe that is a skill we all need in this time. especially if we believe that life is just a dream...that the one infinite creator is having of herself . as you say in your own signature, "thoughts change reality. think about it." and i have on my dc page "life is a state of mind". i also strongly believe that life is a state of how we feel too. if only the whole world could all be hopeful at the same time.
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