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**Janarealiti** · 08-29-2008, 05:45 PM

hi lynette ,

i think at some point, we have to pick at least one opportunity of being a victim, to know what its like. most people find that loosing a dear loved one is the primal victim experience. being the victim in one life can help open a womb of deep empathy in another. if you are numbed in the previous life by something, your likely to be stronger in the next. if we choose to get the victim life over with and plunge into it, i believe we choose to take this ride when our high self knows its going to be able to reach out to us better, knowing something will open that door for the strength to make it through, for the love of ourselves.

i would offer the observation that "being a victim" is a response to a catalyst. it is not a catalyst itself. we cannot always choose everything that will happen to us (even pre-incarnatively, certainly not once we are incarnated). we can and do however choose how we respond to those events. having a loved one brutally murdered is certainly a powerful experience, but "becoming a victim" need not be the response. the pennsylvania amish families that lost their young children in the school shooting in 2006 are a wonderful case in point. it would have been very easy (in our society, even expected) for them to respond with fear, hate and anger toward the assailant, the school, the state and even toward god. rather, and amazingly, they responded with love and forgiveness. so, i agree with the way you originally worded the statement "opportunity to be a victim", but not that we must eventually have a "victim life".

additionally, i would suggest that each life is truly rife with these opportunities. our litigious society is an excellent example of the victim mentality gone awry. if we choose to blame others for our misfortunes, then we are playing the victim, and we are certainly destined to experience another, perhaps greater "opportunity" because we missed this one. when one recognizes that they are ultimately responsible for what happens to themselves, and takes responsibility for their actions and their happiness, then the “opportunities” diminish and eventually fade away. the catalyst was processed, the lesson learned.

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08-29-2008, 05:45 PM	#6
Janarealiti Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 569 Senior Member	hi lynette , i think at some point, we have to pick at least one opportunity of being a victim, to know what its like. most people find that loosing a dear loved one is the primal victim experience. being the victim in one life can help open a womb of deep empathy in another. if you are numbed in the previous life by something, your likely to be stronger in the next. if we choose to get the victim life over with and plunge into it, i believe we choose to take this ride when our high self knows its going to be able to reach out to us better, knowing something will open that door for the strength to make it through, for the love of ourselves. i would offer the observation that "being a victim" is a response to a catalyst. it is not a catalyst itself. we cannot always choose everything that will happen to us (even pre-incarnatively, certainly not once we are incarnated). we can and do however choose how we respond to those events. having a loved one brutally murdered is certainly a powerful experience, but "becoming a victim" need not be the response. the pennsylvania amish families that lost their young children in the school shooting in 2006 are a wonderful case in point. it would have been very easy (in our society, even expected) for them to respond with fear, hate and anger toward the assailant, the school, the state and even toward god. rather, and amazingly, they responded with love and forgiveness. so, i agree with the way you originally worded the statement "opportunity to be a victim", but not that we must eventually have a "victim life". additionally, i would suggest that each life is truly rife with these opportunities. our litigious society is an excellent example of the victim mentality gone awry. if we choose to blame others for our misfortunes, then we are playing the victim, and we are certainly destined to experience another, perhaps greater "opportunity" because we missed this one. when one recognizes that they are ultimately responsible for what happens to themselves, and takes responsibility for their actions and their happiness, then the “opportunities” diminish and eventually fade away. the catalyst was processed, the lesson learned. 3d
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