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**Oberjej** · 10-15-2008, 07:13 PM

thank you very much for your kind words of encoragement. often times we all need a little help now and again.

as most times, when i encounter situations such as this, i become very stoic and introspective. i search out the heart of the matter, or however many issues may be present at the time and try to work through them.

i became aware of the strange circumstance, where in when i become stressed out, i tend to withdraw from others. i feel a sense of panic and stress and feel i am too 'connected' i guess i'd say.. to others.. their needs, my responsibilities towards them.. i feel overwhelmed and begin to withdraw till i feel myself again, that is.. i feel my individual self.

i found it ironic that while we are slowly trying to work towards being unified and dropping all these pretenses and lies that i would still feel the need to shelter myself within my individual ego. there are times when i feel it would be such a great thing if we could just drop all that and be open and honest in such a way.. but that requires also that we be accepting and open to other people's honesty as well.. even when it may be something you might find insulting or awkward.

i had a thought as well earlier this month. the idea was that you could be so loving and full of love that you could sit there in the face of ridicule and anger, accusations and all the rest while simply being loving and accepting everything it had to offer in the way of experience.. and of it's true meaning. the translation is lost a bit here, sometimes these concepts are bigger than our words have room for. but basically the gist was that you did not have to be hurt by such things, but you could love the person or persons who were doing this.. much like jesus did on the cross.. (( looking at the clock right now.. 11:11))

bringing the two concepts together, we see that open and clear communication is possible.. when the spirit of love is truly unleashed and we are truly open to each other. something i can work on with my spouse and those whom i love and care for.

10-15-2008, 07:13 PM	#4
Oberjej Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 603 Senior Member	thank you very much for your kind words of encoragement. often times we all need a little help now and again. as most times, when i encounter situations such as this, i become very stoic and introspective. i search out the heart of the matter, or however many issues may be present at the time and try to work through them. i became aware of the strange circumstance, where in when i become stressed out, i tend to withdraw from others. i feel a sense of panic and stress and feel i am too 'connected' i guess i'd say.. to others.. their needs, my responsibilities towards them.. i feel overwhelmed and begin to withdraw till i feel myself again, that is.. i feel my individual self. i found it ironic that while we are slowly trying to work towards being unified and dropping all these pretenses and lies that i would still feel the need to shelter myself within my individual ego. there are times when i feel it would be such a great thing if we could just drop all that and be open and honest in such a way.. but that requires also that we be accepting and open to other people's honesty as well.. even when it may be something you might find insulting or awkward. i had a thought as well earlier this month. the idea was that you could be so loving and full of love that you could sit there in the face of ridicule and anger, accusations and all the rest while simply being loving and accepting everything it had to offer in the way of experience.. and of it's true meaning. the translation is lost a bit here, sometimes these concepts are bigger than our words have room for. but basically the gist was that you did not have to be hurt by such things, but you could love the person or persons who were doing this.. much like jesus did on the cross.. (( looking at the clock right now.. 11:11)) bringing the two concepts together, we see that open and clear communication is possible.. when the spirit of love is truly unleashed and we are truly open to each other. something i can work on with my spouse and those whom i love and care for.
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