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**ordercigsnick** · 09-18-2008, 01:38 AM

hello,

i think there may be an assumption that everyone wants to shift... i am not sure that is absolutely true.

i found this quote over in the "service to others" post. it seemed very relavant here. it expresses better then i could have said how i think i feel about beings who "may" or "may not" choose to shift.

i would only add, that it may be when a 100th monket effect is reached suddenyly a oneness type though will go out into the conciousness field and everyone will want the same thing... i am just not attached.(btw, i did ask biild if it was ok for me to quote him for this post. here it is in its entirety.)

i haven't quite "jelled" the concept fully in my mind yet, so please forgive me if i seem vague...
i seem to remember something that either ra or seth said about our human concept of "service to others" being either flawed or incomplete. this has had me pondering ever since. if sto is more than just "doing stuff to help", then what else is there?
i think it may include something along the lines of not interfering with the path that others walk, since each path is a journey of experience and learning, each path is correct in its time and in its way for the evolution of that soul...therefore, each path and each "person" are perfect. granted, we interact and we are part of each other's journey in this state of illusory separateness and therefore we have some influence...but i think that perhaps a key point is learning to recognize when another needs to progress on their own and should not be "tampered" with; be it via ideas, material things or whatever. i think sometimes, it may be as simple as just stepping aside and allowing another to walk their path, even if it means harm, discomfort, or hardship for us personally.
aditionally, some people are not ready or are unwilling to hear "the truth". as you can't force anyone to listen, neither can you force them to learn. i find a certain kind of beauty in that...to see in another the potential for growth, and thereby, see the same in myself.

i had a 7th-grade school teacher who taught me a very valuable rule, one which has stuck with me all these years and served me very well as a guide to maintaining balance:
"my rights and freedoms end where your rights and freedoms begin. your rights and freedoms end where my rights and freedoms begin."

ps i have heard that last quote billd mentions except it went like this, "my right to punch you, ends where your nose begins."

09-18-2008, 01:38 AM	#15
ordercigsnick Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 335 Senior Member	hello, i think there may be an assumption that everyone wants to shift... i am not sure that is absolutely true. i found this quote over in the "service to others" post. it seemed very relavant here. it expresses better then i could have said how i think i feel about beings who "may" or "may not" choose to shift. i would only add, that it may be when a 100th monket effect is reached suddenyly a oneness type though will go out into the conciousness field and everyone will want the same thing... i am just not attached.(btw, i did ask biild if it was ok for me to quote him for this post. here it is in its entirety.) i haven't quite "jelled" the concept fully in my mind yet, so please forgive me if i seem vague... i seem to remember something that either ra or seth said about our human concept of "service to others" being either flawed or incomplete. this has had me pondering ever since. if sto is more than just "doing stuff to help", then what else is there? i think it may include something along the lines of not interfering with the path that others walk, since each path is a journey of experience and learning, each path is correct in its time and in its way for the evolution of that soul...therefore, each path and each "person" are perfect. granted, we interact and we are part of each other's journey in this state of illusory separateness and therefore we have some influence...but i think that perhaps a key point is learning to recognize when another needs to progress on their own and should not be "tampered" with; be it via ideas, material things or whatever. i think sometimes, it may be as simple as just stepping aside and allowing another to walk their path, even if it means harm, discomfort, or hardship for us personally. aditionally, some people are not ready or are unwilling to hear "the truth". as you can't force anyone to listen, neither can you force them to learn. i find a certain kind of beauty in that...to see in another the potential for growth, and thereby, see the same in myself. i had a 7th-grade school teacher who taught me a very valuable rule, one which has stuck with me all these years and served me very well as a guide to maintaining balance: "my rights and freedoms end where your rights and freedoms begin. your rights and freedoms end where my rights and freedoms begin." ps i have heard that last quote billd mentions except it went like this, "my right to punch you, ends where your nose begins."
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