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**snislarne** · 08-22-2008, 03:13 AM

i've found that assimilating what early religious training i did have into my current understanding of things has not only helped me to better understand the subject matter in general, but also allows me to speak to others of the same upbringing in a similar manner.

the one major thing that really gave me confusion initially was while watching dan burisch videos on projectcamelot.com. although a lot of good has come from it, including being drawn to this website, he instilled a bit of confusion as well.

he, and i've heard others speak in this way as well, speak of service to others as "luciferian". immediately this brought to mind images of satan worship, of devilry and witchcraft, and honestly i felt that he might be a little bit whacked on the subject matter.

having dug myself into some of the research i realized that the reference was towards hedonism and worship of the material and self. still, i believe that speaking directly would of saved me some degree of effort.

i come from a family that is split in the middle on religon ~ one side is very mormon, the other side is very southern baptist. i've had a very hard time communicating on the subject of my take on things as they were blocked from the message in the way i was speaking. if what i told them went too far outside of their belief system, it simply was discarded.

i've tried my best to distill down what is important in the entirety of the bible that is read at my families houses, and in their churches. i think i've finally found some common ground in which to present to them more esoteric ideas in the future.

1. god is love.

2. god has created everything.

3. we are all sons and daughters of god.

honestly there was a much longer list than this, but it all felt more like sub topics within the basic outline.

and its a place to start with people i care very much about

good on you for using what you've been taught to translate and filter further spiritual progression. it seems like it was the whole intention in the first place doesn't it?

08-22-2008, 03:13 AM	#2
snislarne Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	i've found that assimilating what early religious training i did have into my current understanding of things has not only helped me to better understand the subject matter in general, but also allows me to speak to others of the same upbringing in a similar manner. the one major thing that really gave me confusion initially was while watching dan burisch videos on projectcamelot.com. although a lot of good has come from it, including being drawn to this website, he instilled a bit of confusion as well. he, and i've heard others speak in this way as well, speak of service to others as "luciferian". immediately this brought to mind images of satan worship, of devilry and witchcraft, and honestly i felt that he might be a little bit whacked on the subject matter. having dug myself into some of the research i realized that the reference was towards hedonism and worship of the material and self. still, i believe that speaking directly would of saved me some degree of effort. i come from a family that is split in the middle on religon ~ one side is very mormon, the other side is very southern baptist. i've had a very hard time communicating on the subject of my take on things as they were blocked from the message in the way i was speaking. if what i told them went too far outside of their belief system, it simply was discarded. i've tried my best to distill down what is important in the entirety of the bible that is read at my families houses, and in their churches. i think i've finally found some common ground in which to present to them more esoteric ideas in the future. 1. god is love. 2. god has created everything. 3. we are all sons and daughters of god. honestly there was a much longer list than this, but it all felt more like sub topics within the basic outline. and its a place to start with people i care very much about good on you for using what you've been taught to translate and filter further spiritual progression. it seems like it was the whole intention in the first place doesn't it?
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