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**Rufio** · 10-08-2008, 01:11 AM

dear djdeeze and friends,

seems like it's time for a sunday school re-minder and i'm not being condescending, but for those who have forgotten what scripture says i hate to burst your or others bubble, but jesus was very clear in what one needed to do to be "saved."

http://bibleandquran.org/isjesusgod/ch3.htm

chapter 3 - jesus said "i am"

the absolute emphatic declaration, "i am" is the exact quality of the god of abraham which is described in exodus 3:14, where the words stand for the eternal person of yahweh. jesus declared that he existed even before abraham was. jesus is god, the yahweh of the old testament.

1. "i am" the way, the truth and the life

jesus said to him, "i am the way, the truth, and the life. no one comes to the father except through me." (john 14:6)

such my statement that i'm not going to "believe" in what "one" man says...

re-member though that i think that jesus is a way cool dude ;-)

be well.

david

even lots of christians will agree that john is chock-full of distortion.

historically speaking john was written by a far removed source who inserted not only his own interpretations, but also completely changed the words that were used by jesus.

john is the only book that says jesus is the *only* son of god for instance.

if we stop thumping john so hard and instead look to mark, most of these contradictions instantly go away. all historians agree that mark was written based on primary sources with the intention of accurately transcribing the life of jesus, while john was written by someone with heavy doctrinal education and an agenda to push.

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Rufio Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	dear djdeeze and friends, seems like it's time for a sunday school re-minder and i'm not being condescending, but for those who have forgotten what scripture says i hate to burst your or others bubble, but jesus was very clear in what one needed to do to be "saved." http://bibleandquran.org/isjesusgod/ch3.htm chapter 3 - jesus said "i am" the absolute emphatic declaration, "i am" is the exact quality of the god of abraham which is described in exodus 3:14, where the words stand for the eternal person of yahweh. jesus declared that he existed even before abraham was. jesus is god, the yahweh of the old testament. 1. "i am" the way, the truth and the life jesus said to him, "i am the way, the truth, and the life. no one comes to the father except through me." (john 14:6) such my statement that i'm not going to "believe" in what "one" man says... re-member though that i think that jesus is a way cool dude ;-) be well. david even lots of christians will agree that john is chock-full of distortion. historically speaking john was written by a far removed source who inserted not only his own interpretations, but also completely changed the words that were used by jesus. john is the only book that says jesus is the only son of god for instance. if we stop thumping john so hard and instead look to mark, most of these contradictions instantly go away. all historians agree that mark was written based on primary sources with the intention of accurately transcribing the life of jesus, while john was written by someone with heavy doctrinal education and an agenda to push.
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