[praboobolbode]

i've been reading and listening to some lectures concerning spirituality and much of it meantions the golden rules we all hear of like "turn the other cheek", "love your enemies", and forgive. it's said that unforgiveness is the root of our problems with self. the idea is that other people hurt us because they also have suppressed unforgiveness. others project fear on us as expect us to project it too. the solution is said to love and forgive.

the teachings of the "christ" of christianity taught forgiveness and that to reject forgiveness to others is to also reject god's forgiveness you. in other words, the unpardonable sin isn't merely a wrong we do against life, but the suppressed unforgiveness behind it. "god" always forgives, but we have the power to accept it or reject it (rejecting only hurts us). when we see pain and suffering in the world, its not some diety lashing out on us, but the unforgiveness (lack in belief in forgiveness) of others projected on others.

of course, forgiveness can't be some religion imposed on others because then it would be a some kind of paradox. true forgiveness won't demand that others forgive. when somone rejects your forgiveness (in disbelief) it's only a sad fairwell (they are the ones who quit, it's not like saying "you're fired!)". i probably will ask myself "do i really believe in forgiveness?". perhaps this is the reason certain dieties like the christian god exists, to sort of metaphorically power-up some forgiveness into them from "god", which they don't naturally have. to do this they would have to believe that this diety unconditionally loves and forgives them (when they don't always deserve it and we're not perfect).

so real christians shouldn't really point fingers to eachother (or non-christians) because if they believe in "god's" forgiveness through christ's sacrifice (of forgiveness), then unforgiveness can't exist. real christians will point to their "christ" of forgiveness, not to "the devil's" accusations. of course today "christianity" is just a vain taking of the name of their lord (breaking the 3rd commandment), but if i we're a christian i wouldn't rub that fact in too much though. it's good to be aware of the wrongs done by others so that we know what we are going to forgive. we are to forgive those who selfishly abuse their power. pointing out sins are judgement made in our conscience, it's not some other sinners job to do. absolute forgiveness will lead to abandoning wrongdoings, doing right, and it keeps the conscience clean. true believing christians recognize they are sinners and can only become a saint through their christ. no one is an inherent "saint". "christ" is the "salvation" of those who believe in forgiveness.

forgive and be happy? lol

i guess the best response to "christians" who bash others is that they truely don't believe in "christ" because they hold grudges of unforgiveness. atheists may easily get caught up with this bashing of unforgiveness, but this could all end with goodness, love, and forgiveness. atheists don't see the existance of a personal god (gods seem to be just personified metaphors of the universe), but that doesn't mean they automatically abandon "goodness, love and forgiveness". theists may have it personified, atheists don't. its as simple as a different point of view. polytheists have various personified metaphors, pantheists believe they are to be one with the metaphors, and agnostics don't know whether or not these things are to be metaphors or personalized. perhaps pantheists and panentheists are really on to something by personalizing these metaphors, but theists often keep it as an outside force and forget that goodness should be in them, and not some outside theory or law of nature that doesn't effect them. note: this is a copy and paste from something i posted on a forum for atheists

hmm...all beliefs in a nut shell.