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Old 06-20-2008, 10:59 PM   #1
F1grandprix

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Default Salvation from ego? What danger is it?
introduction to ego and the process of "salvation"

when in ego, we demand love but don't accept it completely because it demands us to recognize our mistakes and to forgive others. when we deny our ego and accept that god eternally loves and forgives us though in fact we don't deserve it, then we can truthfully accept forgiveness. it isn't that god can't forgive us, but our ego prevents us from even feeling the need of any, so it rejects it. ego rejects forgiveness because it will not recognize it's wrongs. ego must be rejected for one to accept forgiveness. when god's eternal forgiveness is accepted, we can truely forgive theirselves and others. true forgiveness acknowledges and confesses there were mistakes and yet holds no guilt. forgiveness continues on to repentance, which means that you learned from you mistakes and turned away from them. after this process of god imputing his righteousness, we are to impart his righteousness. improving spirituality ("sanctification") often proceeds this. those who have truely been saved from ego will no longer follow their old mistaken ways in presumption that they deserve to be loved and forgiven. god's love keep us from ego (and the fears it gives us of ourselves).

salvation is basically the choice to let go of self and letting god live in us. it's like trying to stay calm and float on water when you have a morbid fear of drowning. the only way to float is to be still and let the water carry you.

ego sure has made a physical illusion to distort our view of god, but ego has also made a spiritual illusion as well. it's true that we aren't merely physical beings, but we aren't merely spiritual beings either. we are mental beings composed and sustained by both the physical and the spiritual as one entity. in this illusion we think we can change ourselves but don't realize that egoistic influences in both the physical and spiritual hinder our true evolution, metamorphasis, conversion, etc. evolution implies there is imperfection in our nature and it's only in beholding something perfect that we can all be perfect and in unity. this something is a personal being called god, who is the source of every pure vibration of spirit and knows every part of our soul. when apart from god the only thing we see is ego and it's ruins and pretend it won't consume us. what we call nature implies that there is a subject behind it and creation suggests a creator. the cosmos is god's nature in physical form. god's creatures reflect the character of god in spiritual form. ego has distorted god's nature which in essence is an attack on life and love (because god is life and he is love). we have to be careful not to play god. let not there be a god created in the image of self (ego), but let god create us in the image of love.

god's word of love through the spirit not only creates (and recreates if a creature falls in ego). god also sustains his creation with love. it's god's word of love that grants us life and sustains it and of course it has principles that go contrary to ego. the fact that it goes contrary to ego is why it may be difficult to accept the fact that life is unmerited gift of god, not inherently of ourselves. ego traps us into thinking we have to work our way to salvation, but then assumes that there is no work of service once you are saved. this is settled once we realize we don't do good to be saved, we do good after we become saved. saved from what? egoism. when saved from ego, good works and good character comes naturally from god's love imputed in us. salvation implies there is a savior to cooperate with. we aren't alone in salvation, god is who we cooperate with to be saved. we are all either servants of god or of ego. when a servant sold to their ego you may view the servants of love as slaves (and visa versa). that's how you know people are really decieved by ego's illusions.

we are either influenced by unhealthy spirit of ego (carried by negtive entities) or by the pure spirit of god's love (carried by positive entities). it's possible for an influence to appear to have a healthy spirit, but may just be a cunning way to lead to the service of ego. god cannot force you to be free from ego because love cannot be forced (or it would cease to be love). if a perfect god of love were actually role playing in every single individual's lives (humans, angels, aliens, etc) then ego couldn't exist, but since we are free-willed creatures with responsability for our own actions, have the right to apart from god's love (thus entering ego).

i have a few question

do we not have the god-given power of choice to either let god save us from ego or to let ego detroy us physically and spiritually? if ego doesn't really destroy us and it were merely an illusion (meaning it doesn't exist) then why would we have to be saved from it? salvation assumes there is danger of something, but if it doesn't exist, how can ego even harm us? doesn't ego begin in the mind before it physically manifest? are not there unhealthy spiritual entities, beings, persons, etc (carrying unhealthy spirit) and that need to be spiritually nurished with the spirit? doesn't the spirit come from a source in it's purest original form? are demons figments of our imagination? if so, wouldn't that also make angels, gods, and even our own souls figments of our imagination? my psyche hursts trying to make sense of everything. perhaps everything is actually a figment of god's imagination lol basically i'm asking if the realm of ego will ever self-destruct....hmm.... the dilema i find in pantheism is that it sugests god is made in our image, and since no one is perfect, it suggests an imperfect god.

grr my mind still hurts.....
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