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**WenPyclenoWex** · 10-06-2008, 11:59 AM

makes sense and now that i think of it jesus did say that he and his father are one (he's in the father and the father in him). he also told thomas if you have seen him, you've seen the father. another interesting thing behind this is this teaching that man can't do anything of himself by what he sees his father god do is that it parallels many other teachings i've heard (elsewhere) that we become what we behold and that you can know who someone's friends and ultimately god through people. the reason most people don't believe in god because they don't see many people one with god.

concerning the concept of looking inward for god though, i think it's easy to forget to empty ourselves of all prejudices of what one thinks god is and let god be who he is in us. god's spirit of life is all in us and had given us all the ability to feel and reason to make wise decisions willfully (it's by faith).

we all have this underestimated potential to live the the life of god, but we don't always use the abilities god has given us. i think this is because we've gotten ourselves all tangled up in this ego-world of guilt and fear and sometimes we suppress it by not forgiving ourselves and each other. in a sense this ego is a false "god" me made of ourselves and some (even "christians") have held on to this false god who they claimed saved them.

it's understandable for those who are like god (a life of god) to call one's self god because they are one with god and when people see you they see god, but i doing that confuses people because there are many people, even christians that may "call themselves god" but are nothing like god at all, thus they become a stumbling block to others who seek god and then it makes atheists out of people (yet i think even atheists deep with in their heart believe there has to be a "god", but they just don't believe in the one that most theists have). this is why i'm no pantheist and i wouldn't call myself god, but i'm a panentheist, which mean i believe god is in all and all is in god. i distinguish god from my identity because honestly, i still have to be perfected into the image god (i think i know him, but i really don't know him well). i'm struggling to stay one with god, but i believe i get closer everyday.

10-06-2008, 11:59 AM	#3
WenPyclenoWex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	makes sense and now that i think of it jesus did say that he and his father are one (he's in the father and the father in him). he also told thomas if you have seen him, you've seen the father. another interesting thing behind this is this teaching that man can't do anything of himself by what he sees his father god do is that it parallels many other teachings i've heard (elsewhere) that we become what we behold and that you can know who someone's friends and ultimately god through people. the reason most people don't believe in god because they don't see many people one with god. concerning the concept of looking inward for god though, i think it's easy to forget to empty ourselves of all prejudices of what one thinks god is and let god be who he is in us. god's spirit of life is all in us and had given us all the ability to feel and reason to make wise decisions willfully (it's by faith). we all have this underestimated potential to live the the life of god, but we don't always use the abilities god has given us. i think this is because we've gotten ourselves all tangled up in this ego-world of guilt and fear and sometimes we suppress it by not forgiving ourselves and each other. in a sense this ego is a false "god" me made of ourselves and some (even "christians") have held on to this false god who they claimed saved them. it's understandable for those who are like god (a life of god) to call one's self god because they are one with god and when people see you they see god, but i doing that confuses people because there are many people, even christians that may "call themselves god" but are nothing like god at all, thus they become a stumbling block to others who seek god and then it makes atheists out of people (yet i think even atheists deep with in their heart believe there has to be a "god", but they just don't believe in the one that most theists have). this is why i'm no pantheist and i wouldn't call myself god, but i'm a panentheist, which mean i believe god is in all and all is in god. i distinguish god from my identity because honestly, i still have to be perfected into the image god (i think i know him, but i really don't know him well). i'm struggling to stay one with god, but i believe i get closer everyday.
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