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**Unwiseevove** · 05-03-2008, 04:00 AM

forumers,
i reckon most of you are christian raised as most western people, do you believe some people will be taken to heaven in body and soul before the earth changes, i have read in the internet it might come after a peace treaty is signed in jerusalem, israel.
other versions i have heard seem to nullify this event; in other words everyone stays on the planet when basically the biblical demons are set loose to raise havoc on earth, accompanying earthquakes and other catastrophes.
i know, i know, don´t worry be happy.

i will post just a short tid bit. but most of what your talking about doesn't coincide with my belief system. i am going to reply so you can understand a different perspective on this. the whole rapture and us being rescued by jesus on a cloud is kind of a silly idea as well as a highly presumptuous one. in that people feel that they have led such a good enough life that they will be whisked away in a cloud for their good deeds. i can see that you are still attached to the bible and what it says so we won't see eye to eye on many topics. but most of what you are seeing in the world today has nothing to do with the bible. the bible was created by a certain group with a certain intention. now the bible isn't necessarily a negative thing, but it is certainly confusing in the sense that it tells you to do one thing and then do the opposite to be a good person that believes in your god. for me its a book on alchemy. but to grasp what is going on with a peace treaty, this and that. all of those things happening in the reality are part of the "program". it's all orchestrated to follow an idea that certain entities want planted in the collective consciousness to bring about their "doomsday". this may be a bit much for you to swallow, but you are in the matrix. read material on this site and "unplug" yourself. you have to understand what is happening in the world today is purposely being created by "entities" in the background that want a doomsday scenario for the human race. by therefore having a book that can metaphorically apply itself to a certain scenario during the period within revelations, they can implant that within the collective consciousness, which creates the idea that it's really happening which allows for entities within our consciousness grid to manifest it. that is, if you really want to "unplug" yourself. there is mounds upon mounds upon mounds, of information getting out there these days. there is so much to learn, but on the same token. it is a voyage that you have to be mentally and spiritually prepared for as you will not be the same person with the same beliefs again. goodluck!

and just for a quick read which you may have not read from david wilcock himself. just on a particular quote from revelations.

we are now within five years of the mayan calendar end-date. cayce’s readings did not specifically mention the year 2012, but they very much indicated that we were heading into a period of great change and spiritual transformation.

consider reading 294-185:

"these changes on earth will come to pass, for the time and times and half-times are at an end, and there begin those periods for the readjustments.

for how hath he given? ‘the righteous shall inherit the earth.’"

as we explained in the reincarnation of edgar cayce?, the "time, times and half-times" reference means 1 + 2 + 1/2, for a total of 3 1/2.

since the reading says this time of being at "three and a half" is ending, it refers to the crossing point between "third density" and "fourth density" — the tipping point where the earth fully makes the shift from one density to another. (a density is somewhat akin to a dimensional level or plane of existence, as defined in the law of one series.)

we are already seeing the "readjustments" taking place now as we move through this shift — exactly as this and other cayce readings indicated.

perhaps the most enigmatic cayce passage is in 282-5, where the ascension prophecies in the book of revelation are referred to as if they were quite literal. please excuse the gender-specific references to the one creator, as it was a bias of the channel:

"seeking his face, know ye not that he shall give his angels charge concerning thee, that they shall bear thee up?

believest thou? or art thou just wondering?"

the passage from revelations about angels bearing people up — beginning at 11:11, incidentally — also features this mention of three and a half… in that case as being the end of a period of three and a half days:

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Unwiseevove Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	forumers, i reckon most of you are christian raised as most western people, do you believe some people will be taken to heaven in body and soul before the earth changes, i have read in the internet it might come after a peace treaty is signed in jerusalem, israel. other versions i have heard seem to nullify this event; in other words everyone stays on the planet when basically the biblical demons are set loose to raise havoc on earth, accompanying earthquakes and other catastrophes. i know, i know, don´t worry be happy. i will post just a short tid bit. but most of what your talking about doesn't coincide with my belief system. i am going to reply so you can understand a different perspective on this. the whole rapture and us being rescued by jesus on a cloud is kind of a silly idea as well as a highly presumptuous one. in that people feel that they have led such a good enough life that they will be whisked away in a cloud for their good deeds. i can see that you are still attached to the bible and what it says so we won't see eye to eye on many topics. but most of what you are seeing in the world today has nothing to do with the bible. the bible was created by a certain group with a certain intention. now the bible isn't necessarily a negative thing, but it is certainly confusing in the sense that it tells you to do one thing and then do the opposite to be a good person that believes in your god. for me its a book on alchemy. but to grasp what is going on with a peace treaty, this and that. all of those things happening in the reality are part of the "program". it's all orchestrated to follow an idea that certain entities want planted in the collective consciousness to bring about their "doomsday". this may be a bit much for you to swallow, but you are in the matrix. read material on this site and "unplug" yourself. you have to understand what is happening in the world today is purposely being created by "entities" in the background that want a doomsday scenario for the human race. by therefore having a book that can metaphorically apply itself to a certain scenario during the period within revelations, they can implant that within the collective consciousness, which creates the idea that it's really happening which allows for entities within our consciousness grid to manifest it. that is, if you really want to "unplug" yourself. there is mounds upon mounds upon mounds, of information getting out there these days. there is so much to learn, but on the same token. it is a voyage that you have to be mentally and spiritually prepared for as you will not be the same person with the same beliefs again. goodluck! and just for a quick read which you may have not read from david wilcock himself. just on a particular quote from revelations. we are now within five years of the mayan calendar end-date. cayce’s readings did not specifically mention the year 2012, but they very much indicated that we were heading into a period of great change and spiritual transformation. consider reading 294-185: "these changes on earth will come to pass, for the time and times and half-times are at an end, and there begin those periods for the readjustments. for how hath he given? ‘the righteous shall inherit the earth.’" as we explained in the reincarnation of edgar cayce?, the "time, times and half-times" reference means 1 + 2 + 1/2, for a total of 3 1/2. since the reading says this time of being at "three and a half" is ending, it refers to the crossing point between "third density" and "fourth density" — the tipping point where the earth fully makes the shift from one density to another. (a density is somewhat akin to a dimensional level or plane of existence, as defined in the law of one series.) we are already seeing the "readjustments" taking place now as we move through this shift — exactly as this and other cayce readings indicated. perhaps the most enigmatic cayce passage is in 282-5, where the ascension prophecies in the book of revelation are referred to as if they were quite literal. please excuse the gender-specific references to the one creator, as it was a bias of the channel: "seeking his face, know ye not that he shall give his angels charge concerning thee, that they shall bear thee up? believest thou? or art thou just wondering?" the passage from revelations about angels bearing people up — beginning at 11:11, incidentally — also features this mention of three and a half… in that case as being the end of a period of three and a half days:
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